Finally PRO gets a better guide than that other one.

 

Ok....

Great work.

Good job>3

Great tier list, finding the meta substantially different from the OU generations from Smogon, so this would help out a lot of players including myself.

 

Surprised to not see Rhyperior higher up.

[mention]Shenal[/mention], the list is still incomplete. I'll be going over the Pokémon in the lower tiers in the future. I already indicated that Rhyperior (and a few others) will rise, but probably just by one tier or two.

Thanks for the work. Very helpful for someone who is trying to figure out the meta in this game. :)

Volcarona

Current tier: A-

Desired tier (optional): A+

Lack of Talonflame and addition of defoggers.

 

Rotom-Wash

Current tier: None

Desired tier (optional): A- / A

If we had functioning Volt Switch this mon would be A+ but without it you can't take advantage of the many good matchups Rotom-Wash has. This mon is supposed to also allowed wallbreakers and setup sweepers to come in safely but without Volt Switch it can't do that. Talonflame is also gone so I don't see why other bulky waters shouldn't be used over this mon. It does hold a place in the metagame due to its ability to wall Excadrill, Defog on many hazard setters (Donphan, Hippowdon, Skarmory and a few more).

 

Rotom-Heat

Current tier: None

Desired tier (optional): A / A+

The prevalence of Ferrothorn, Tangrowth, Magnezone, Togekiss, Volcarona, Amoonguss, etc. is why I rank this higher than Rotom-Wash. It has the ability to force those mons out and can click Thunderbolt vs. the bulky waters that think of coming in vs it. The only waters capable of walling Rotom-Heat are Volt Absorb Lanturn and Gastrodon (idk any others) and they aren't used as much. The only things I don't like about this one is its weakness to Stealth Rock and its only STAB fire attack is Overheat.

 

Amoonguss

Current tier: A-

Desired tier (optional): A

Much better due to the addition of Clear Smog. It can now keep Suicune, Clefable, and a few others in check.

 

Pelipper

Current tier: None

Desired tier (optional): Replace it with Politoed

It's a better Politoed with access to Hurricane, Defog, and Recovery in Roost. It can't get in rain abusers safely due to U-turn not working but it's still better. It can break things that beat rain such as Tangrowth, Ferrothorn, etc. with a choice specs set as well. Politoed can't do this as well as Pelipper.

 

This is the tier list I use when making some teams so I just wanted to post this in order to help get it up to date. :D

List updated.

 

Additions:

• Added new moves (e.g. Liquidation, Clear Smog, Icicle Crash)
  
• Added a Poison Heal set to Breloom and a Choice Band option to the Weavile set
  
• Added Mantine to B+, Pelipper to A-, Rotom-Heat to A, Rotom-Wash to A and Torkoal to B
  

Removals:

• Removed Blaziken, Dugtrio and Politoed
  
• Removed the defensive Ninetales set
  

Rises:

• Moved Amoonguss from A- to A
  
• Moved Breloom from A- to A
  
• Moved Conkeldurr from B+ to BL to A
  
• Moved Heracross from B+ to BL to A
  
• Moved Ludicolo from B to BL to B+
  
• Moved Mamoswine from B to B+
  
• Moved Volcarona from A- to A+
  
• Moved Weavile from A- to A
  

Drops:

• Moved Gengar from A+ to A
  
• Moved Skarmory from A+ to A
  
• Moved Talonflame from S to B
  

Edited April 30, 20188 yr by Jorogumo

List updated.

 

Additions:

• Added an Unaware set to Clefable
  
• Added an offensive trapper set to Heatran
  
• Added two Mold Breaker sets to Excadrill
  
• Added Pursuit to Tyranitar, Weavile and Scizor
  
• Added Trick to Latios, Latias, Jirachi, Rotom-Heat and Chandelure
  
• Added Magma Storm and Power Herb to Heatran
  
• Added Encore to Alakazam
  
• Added Drain Punch to Conkeldurr
  
• Added Greninja to S
  

Discussion points:

• Greninja: S or A+?
  
• Rotom-Heat: A or A-?
  
• Azelf: A or A-?
  
• Conkeldurr: A or A-?
  
• Heracross: A or A-?
  
• Magnezone: A or A-?
  
• Slowbro: A- or B+?
  
• Togekiss: A or A-?
  
• Blissey: A- or B+?
  
• Goodra: A- or B+?
  
• Reuniclus: A- or B+?
  
• Crawdaunt: A- or B+?
  
• Venusaur: B+ or B?
  
• Chandelure: B+ or B?
  
• Ludicolo: B+ or B?
  
• Snorlax: B+ or B?
  
• Aerodactyl: B+ or B?
  
• Doublade: B or B-?
  

Edited July 30, 20187 yr by Jorogumo

Discussion points:

• Greninja: S or A+?
  
• Rotom-Heat: A or A-?
  
• Azelf: A or A-?
  
• Conkeldurr: A or A-?
  
• Heracross: A or A-?
  
• Magnezone: A or A-?
  
• Slowbro: A or A-?
  
• Togekiss: A or A-?
  
• Blissey: A- or B+?
  
• Goodra: A- or B+?
  
• Reuniclus: A- or B+?
  
• Crawdaunt: A- or B+?
  
• Venusaur: B+ or B?
  
• Chandelure: B+ or B?
  
• Ludicolo: B+ or B?
  
• Snorlax: B+ or B?
  
• Aerodactyl: B or B-?
  
• Doublade: B or B-?
  

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Greninja > S

Rotom Heat > A- or even B+ in my opinion

Azelf > A

Conkeldurr > A

Heracross > A

Magnezone A-

Slowbro > B- in my opinion this mon is totally useless now

Togekiss > A-

Blissey > B+

Goodra > B+

Reuniclus > A-

Crawdaunt > A- or even A

Venusaur > B

Chandelure > B+

Ludicolo > B+

Snorlax > B

Aerodactyl > B+ or even A-

Doublade > B -

 

Would be too long to give a description on every single one,but this is my opinion on it.