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the example of Starmie was already fact before we have seen Gothitelle. Forretress as a rapid spinner or Scizor as one of the few defogger we currently have are trapped and killed by magnezone. If we get arena trap dugtrio has a 25% chance to OHKO tentacruel (with 220 def) after stealth rock. Skarmory or Empoleon (as potential defoger once we get defog tm) are trapped and 1HP'd/killed by magnezone. U can make the same case for entry hazard setters or that a dugtrio OHKO's your sun setter Ninetales or your electric absorber in your rain team or the electric type in your enemy team if your running a rain team or ... Just because a trapper is able to take out a key threat isnt IMO a reason to bann trapping. U bann/limit mechanics because they can be exploited. And Gothitelle is exploiting the fact that it can trapp and kill key threats while boosting two stats to +6 and recover all hp lost. And if u take away calm mind u make rest unreliable (with chesto berry it's a one time use) and it ends as a normal trapper trading 1 for 2 at max and 1 for 1 in 90% of cases and that's not overpowered or toxic.

It's interesting how different the arguments are in smogon and PRO. Smogon has big concerns about the trickscarf set which cripples a lot of physical attackers and pokemons relying on setting up like clefable which would counter a calm mind goth with unaware (trickscarf isnt implemented in PRO). PRO players are concerned about the "getting to +6 with calm mind for free and sweeping the enemy afterwards" (PRO misses unaware and pursuit). Smogon also states that "Primarily, Gothitelle seems to be the only problem. Why ban an entire ability when it seems to have only one primary offender?" and that shadow tag and other trapping abilities (like arena trap) arent banned in every tier (e.g. little cup). So i ask again, why not limit the movepool before banning an ability and make all the pokemons completely useless? Deny Gothitelle the moves it abuses (calm mind and in the future trick) and see if its still broken and if so there can be further actions but i heavily doubt the second

because togekiss is weak to ice?

thunder has a 70% accuracy and compound eyes increases accuracy by 30% 0,7 * 1,3 = 0,91 -> 91 % accuracy therefore it has a 9% chance to miss

can confirm. wouldnt mind losing the points, but the 45 min penalty is really annoying. if your in high rating the rating is important :Crazy: being 200 points above your enemy makes you lose alot of points but its more annoying that i cant grind my rating back for 45 mins

can confirm. wouldnt mind losing the points, but the 45 min penalty is really annoying.

Bump!

Breloom: c.o.: end: 48 hours once i started the auction insta: Togekiss: start: 500 k c.o.: end: 48 hours after first offer insta: 750 k Houndoom: start: 50 k c.o.: end: 48 hours after first offer insta: 150 k

another thing that can happen is your next pokemon gets switched out and switched in again while not attacking but taking the damage from the enemy edit: the problem with being stuck is some1 gets a 45 minute penalty :-(

Imo the most important reason for a battle chat is that it could help to proof a bug or that some1 is breaking the rules. i already had the case that staff only warned a player because "breloom could have run effect spore and therefore 1 of your 2 pokemons could be sleeping"

That's actually a pretty fair argument as I see most people complaining about shadow tag instead. However calm mind isn't banned in PRO. Shadow Tag is banned in literally almost every other Serious Pokemon PVP community, as well as swagger. Yet neither are banned in PRO. Calm mind is fine. Banning it would weaken too many pokemons. Try to think outside of the box. If a rule can be "shadow tag is banned" the rule could also be "pokemons with a trapping ability arent allowed to run boosting moves" dont spread false informations. Arena trap is not coded therefore noone is using dugtrio. If magnezone with magnet pull is very specific, gothitelle with shadow tag is too. The amount of pokemons it can trap is limited by its own stats and typing! Magnezone has a weaker version of shadow tag because it already has the best defensive typing. And the no-brain thing is because of calm mind. Calm mind makes Rest a reliable recovery because at +2 gothitelle doesnt care about the 2 sleep turns. So gothitelle gets to +6, than uses rest, waits 2 turns, kills the other pokemon while remaining 95% hp. gothitelle with chestorest and taunt does the same job as calm mind gothitelle (against haze milotic, calm mind slowbro or once it works unaware clefable even better) but will never be able to sweep a complete team. Imo that state would be comparable to magnezone's which is completely fine.

the mechanic is the same as magnet pull or arena trap. The problem with Gothitelle isnt shadow tag its calm mind.

Mew beats Blissey + Slowbro its not about beating its about challenging. Everyone knows the x beats y thing, but how many good players let pokemon y stay in when they have pokemon z in the team to handle x? You can build more teams around slowbro+blissey than around spdef mew+anything. And because of that u cant even pick mew as a counter because it may be useless against most of the teamcomps. And if u want to challenge slowbro+blissey with a stallbreaker there are ones that add more to a team. And i can say that because i have a calm mew with 70% of the relevent iv's. celebi can challenge slowbro's slot as a psychic type because the likes of blastoise, swampert, milotic, ... can fill the physical wall role while celebi can handle stuff like rain teams, hippowdon+excadrill, breloom and fighting types and adds offensive pressence. Nevertheless its still pressured by talonflame, staraptor, togekiss, weavile, bisharp, gengar or even tyranitar in sand. 100 base stats look cool because u could use the pokemon in many different ways. But u most likely find another pokemon for that role with better typing or key stats. Additionally u cant change the legendary in PRO so there is no surprise after the first battle.

I doubt that it would mix up anything. Else we would see all players with good ones spam them like hell. They are good to suprise an enemy from time to time but they arent good enough to be played consistently. And we are lacking content right now that would weaken them like pursuit, choice scarf. Jirachi and Mew are unable to challenge a Slobro+Blissey combo. Celebi could challenge Slowbro, but it struggles against to many of the current offensive pokemons.

So u actually dont want to increase the amount of different pokemons played, just which pokemons are played at a certain time. That's changing nothing!!! PRO isnt LoL where a company wants u to play as many different champions as possible to maximize their chance to sell some skins. Additionally there is a PvE aspect in this game. edit: balance always ends if a game offers enough variations to not get stale. Or can u give me the last patch notes for chess or texas hold'em? PRO needs the missing moves/abilities/items, the mega-evolutions for the weaker pokemons (like beedrill, ampharos, absol) and the next regions to get easier access to some pokemons like staraptor or bisharp

"perfect" balance in pokemon is impossible because pokemons share moves/abilities/typing

Auction for togekiss has ended: - highest bidder is suspended - i contacted second highest bidder cyrex with 550k Auction for Scizor has ended: - last offer in time was 290k but didnt respect the minimum price step of 25k. I contacted tiktoktok to adjust his offer but he didnt - last regular offer was 275k by margaux

Because there was a bid in the last hour, auction time for scizor gets extended by 6 hours. New end is: 22.09.2016, 01:00 UTC+2

added an insta for Togekiss: 1m

auction on Togekiss started end: 22.09.2016,13:40 UTC+2

auction for siczor started. c.o.: 175k by margaux end: 21.09.2016, 19:00 UTC+2

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Rules: - I'll start the auction once i see a good offer. Once i started the auction I wont bail out. - auction time is 48 hours (extended by 6 hours if there is a bid in the last hour) - I may add an insta within the first 24 hours of an auction. If i dont add an insta i wont sell it ingame for an insta ;-) - u are allowed to cancel your offer till 3 hours before acution end, but u are lose the right mto make any other bids in this topic - minimum bid: 5k till 50k, 10k till 250k, 25k till 500k, 50k till 1m, 100k above 1m Togekiss start: 550k c.o.: 580k by vexen end: 22.09.2016,13:40 UTC+2 insta: 1m Scizor start: 150k sold for: 275k to margaux ended: 21.09.2016, 19:00 UTC+2 extended by 6 hours -> 22.09.2016, 01:00 UTC+2 Houndoom start: c.o.: end: insta:

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it's a 50% chance if both pokemon speed tie. I assume his gengar was max speed too and he was the lucky one