Belzebel

Hello warriors and others, I would like to sell this epic HP Ice Houndoom. Defence is the only low IV, but it is the least important IV for that pokemon, since it is pretty fast and even a 31 def Houndoom would die to a Mach Punch. This Houndoom works really well for megas, since it is almost max speed and HP Ice. Even without the Sun, the HP Ice will help you deal against Garchomps and Dragonites. A +2 Dark Pulse in the Sun should be enough to kill a Heatran. Mega Houndoom is also faster than Gengar and mega Latios/Latias. The auction will end 48 hours after the first bid. Start Bid: 1m Increase bid: 100k Insta: 3m First bid by Jayanth271 for x1 IV Reroll Ticket + 300k Auction will end in 2 days. HOW TO BID Leave a comment down below with your offer and your Discord name or your PRO name. You can also contact me on Discord: Belzebel#8842

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Hello guys, I'm looking for a Porygon (or Porygon 2) with Sassy Nature and Trace Ability for Trick Room. Which means, I want it to have low Speed. HP, Def, Spdef and Spatk atk should be 20+. Atk doesn't matter. I have 12m atm, but ofc I will pay a fair price for it. Please, contact me on Discord. My discord ID: Belzebel#8842 If you don't have Discord, leave a comment down bellow with your PRO username , timezone and the time and date you will be online in PRO.

The reason why they banned in ladder tournament is U-turn and Volt-switch. However, thats not even the reason why Lando-I is broken. It is the stats + sheer force + typing + movepool + stabs. There's literally NO switches for Landorus-I with sheer force + life orb. The fact it doesn't even take damage from life orb makes it even more ridiculous.

Losing or winning is not the reason why I made this thread, as I'm not playing as much anyway. PRO is very close to be based on OU tier. On Showdown OU gen 7, Lando-I is banned because of how OP Sheer Force is. It's not only Sun teams that struggle against Lando-I. There's no switches to it, if its mixed. Also, the discussion is about PRO, not me. I couldn't care less about what you think about my person.

I don't know if this is the right area to make this thread, but I want to know why its taking so long for Sheer Force Landorus to be banned. It's been 3 months since the thread about banning or not banning Landorus. The majority of people agreed to ban Landorus I with Sheer Force. Some people wanted Incarnate Landorus to be banned completely. Everyone who plays PVP knows how OP Landorus-I with Sheer Force is in OU tier, specially in a game like PRO with no Z-moves and megas. I know megas will come soon, but still, even with megas Landorus with sheer force is still broken. I will not discuss why it is broken because it was already discussed in the thread that everyone apparently forgot about. It's is being boring to play the game, not only because PRO is unbalanced, but because Pokemon itself is unbalanced. The reason why tiers like OU, Uber, RU, etc.. exist is because Pokemon is unbalanced. The fact PRO doesn't even have tiers makes it even worse. The issue of pokemon is that 50 pokemon are good, while the other 800 are useless. That's why PVP is monometa. Please, don't make it worse. Ban Landorus-I. Don't give me a reason to pay 30 dollars to play Temtem...

Hey, I would like to know if it is possible to add an option to devolve a pokemon that is already evolved. For example, I have a Magnezone, but I wanted it to be a Magneton. Is it possible to do that?

These are some pokemon I have. I spent Rerolls on the Raikou. It is HP Fire with max speed, high special attack and decent overall IVs. It doesn't make a difference if it was 31 or 1 IV on the def. You can calculate anything you want and see if it it gets KOed by anything a 31 def Raikou wouldn't. The Torkoal and Whimsicott belong to other people who hunted their own pokemon. They are pretty epic. Having the 31 number doesn't make a big difference either. They had the time to hunt their own pokemon, so now they have good pokemon. Staff barely have the time to play, imagine hunting. I know because I am a former staff. You have no idea how much work they have. And they do it on their FREE time. Bruh...

I would agree with you if this was posted 1 year ago, when we didn't have reroll tickets. Now it is possible for every player to reroll legendaries or just hunt for a non-legendary that have good IVs. If a staff member invested their time playing the game, instead of working on the game, they would eventually have enough money to hunt/buy an epic pokemon or rerolls enough. I was unlucky with all the 3 Forces of Nature. Some people got godly ones. We just have to accept the fact some people will have godly pokemon, some will not. Work your way out for it.

That's funny. I never lost/win a game because of a staff pokemon. Well, I'm talking for me. I've seen someone using a Shiny godly Heatran. It doesn't make a difference for me if that was trash or godly. Venusaur needs a growth to kill it anyway. Golem still KOs it being godly or not. Garchomp still survives its HP Ice, being godly or not. It doesn't really make a difference, unless you wanna rely on your opponents pokemon being completely trash so you can win with stab neutral move. I always build my teams and calculate moves damage based on their max stats, so I don't have this problem.

I did not say that because I like to play Sun. I have experience with weather teams because I play sun. I know how difficult it is to control the weather against sand, regardless if I'm playing Sun or any other weather. The reason why I'm talking about weather teams is because Sand Force actives during sandstorm, which is set by a weather setter: Tyranitar/Hippowdon. They make it easy for Landorus to get momentum, no matter what you play. Sand Force Landorus becomes a Sheer Force Landorus if your opponent team is not even using a weather team, which is even worse. I used weathers as an example because it's the only thing that could possibly take the momentum out of the sandforce Landorus.

The entire Incarnate Landorus should be banned. Even the Sand Force one. This is how it is in Showdown, and it has a reason. Sheer Force Landorus will make Sand Teams even stronger than it already is. Tyranitar is already the King of the Weathers, since theres no other Weather Setter that can switch into it. Stone Edge will kill or 2ko Pelippers, Ninetales-Alolan, Ninetales, Torkoal... If it's not a banded Tyranitar, it might not 2ko a Politoed, but... who uses Politoed? So, having Tyranitar with the most advantage of all weathers, it is really hard to dominate another weather to prevent Sand Force Landorus to get momentum in the sand. Almost nothing can switch into a Incarnate Landorus, being it Sheer Force or Sand Force. It It's just too easy to bring momentum to this pokemon. And, the fact it can learn so many coverage moves, it makes it harder to predict. Until you realise the set its running, at least 1 or 2 pokemon already died. Incarnate Landorus should be entirely banned.

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I have used trick room too, and all the things you mentioned to counter it are meta lol. Use trick room just to counter baton pass is like shooting your own foot. It doesn't matter if you never lost a game with trick room. We are not discussing how better you are than the other players. In discussions like this, you should assume everyone would have the same level of pvp experience and skill. In overall, in PRO, the win ratio with trick room is very low. Im sure @Qeight can show us since he is an expert in usage data for some reason. Im sure if people in PRO realised how OP baton pass is, they would be spamming it. It's sad that this discussion brought so much attention to it and now if its not getting banned, people will spam it, have an insane win ratio and then we gonna have this discussion again. Also, Manaphy was never banned, but it was Uber until gen 6. They made it OU when megas and Z moves were out, because then we had things to actually counter it. PRO is nothing like Showdown, you need to know how to adapt it. We don't have anything to properly counter Manaphy. Even a Sun team that was supposed to be able to deal with it would have to sacrifice the sun setter and have Manaphy low enough so it can KO it with Giga Drain or Energy Ball. Ofc, Im talking about Manaphy with Rain Dance. And if it has baton pass, then not even sun abusers or Serperior, Magnezone or Jolteon would be able to beat it.

The only thing that can taunt a Scolipede is a Sableye (which is a trash pokemon) or any other pranksters, which are usually trash too. I don't know why you think defog is a counter to baton pass, so i will ignore that. Priority is not solid counter. Scolipede can protect and baton pass to something that resists the priority move. Unaware will not counter flinches. Icy wind dos not have enough damage, unless you are insane enough to baton pass to a Dragonite on a Gengar. I also don't know how intimidate helps... There are no solid counters for Baton Pass, unless you use Sableye or Trick Room, which loses to everything else in PRO. Only trash comps can beat Baton Pass... and since only a few people use it, its not worth to use trick room only to counter it. So you will just have to accept to lose when you match a baton pass user, abusing the speed boost bug.

Baton Pass isn't very common or used in PRO. However, it doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a ban. Statics in PRO are not certain. So using the "this is not over used or this is over used" as an argument is invalid in my opinion. Ferrothorn for example is not OP at all and its over used. Tyranitar is OP and it is not being used at a lot anymore. I will list a few reasons why Baton pass should be banned. 1) Speed Boost is not coded properly. It is giving more speed than it should after volt-switch and u-turn. For that reason, a lot of people are abusing baton pass. The solution for this in specific would be banning Speed Boost until is coded properly. 2) Baton Pass is banned in OU. I know PRO and Showdown are very different. We can't even compare PRO with Gen 6, since there are no megas. I also know the MAIN reason why they decided to ban baton pass without even a test was Necrozma, Magearna and Manaphy. For some reason, Manaphy is not bannned in PRO and it is OP on its own. Baton Pass just boosts it even more. 3) Manaphy, Togekiss, Latias and wallbreakers can be really OP with Baton Pass. In my opinion, Baton Pass simply boosts whatever is already OP. It turns OU Pokemon to Uber. Why do you think Blaziken with Speed Boost was turned to Uber? Because having more speed than anything and the stats it naturally has is just Uber, and Baton Pass makes it possible for any other pokemon. As I said, Manaphy is broken on its own. But with speed increased it just has no counters. Togekiss with speed passed can be faster than anything and still Nasty Plot. I don't think Unaware Pokemon are proper counters because it can be flinched to death, specially if it is a Modest Togekiss. Not even weather pokemon will be faster than that. Specially with Speed Boost not coded properly. Latias with Stored Power, Speed Passed and Calm Mind.... do I need to say something? About the wallbreaker, well... they are bulky pokemon with a lot of damage, imagine if they had speed... well.. 4) The only thing that can counter Baton Pass properly is Trick Room, which is bad against everything else in PRO. Some would say Scizor might be good against Baton Pass... well, Scizor is a free pass to Manaphy, I would say. I really don't know anything that can counter a fast Manaphy... Maybe Scarf Serperior? Well, with the Volt Switch/U-turn bug, it will be +2, so nevermind... 5) Why is Manaphy not banned? Manaphy was Uber until Megas were out on Showdown. We don't have megas in RRO yet. I'm pretty sure everyone knows the Manaphy win ratio is pretty high, specially if it is Rain Dance set. When I say "pretty high" I mean, too high... in a way you can just rely on its "OPness" to win, instead of actually making some effort, which is the purpose of a strategy game, in my opinion. 6) Here's the link for the Baton Pass ban discussion in Showdown. You can take your own conclusions. https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/baton-pass-in-sm-ou.3604290/page-2#post-7370590 Please keep in mind Necrozma and Magearna are not the only OP things in Baton Pass. Don't just ignore everything I said about Manaphy, Togekiss, Latias and wallbreakers just because they haven't mentioned it in this post. 7) Before you say I am complaining about Baton Pass because it is good against sun. I really don't care about what counters sun or not. I was the one who reported the Burn Up bug. If I really cared about it, I would just keep abusing the bug and get easy wins like people are doing with Baton Pass, abusing speed boost bug and its natural OPness. I apologise my english isn't good enough to express my thoughts properly, but I think these are good reasons to consider?... well, thanks for reading.

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Hello people, I would like to buy a HP Fire Shield Dust Cutiefly. It need to have good IVs in overall, specially speed and special attack. I'm willing to pay up to 3m, but prices can decrease or increase depending on how epic it is. I play mainly on silver, but I will transfer to gold to get it. My IGN name is Belzebel, so feel free to PM me if you see me online. You can also contact me on Discord, I'm there all the time: Belzebel#8842 Or you can simply leave a comment below with your IGN, timezone and when you are able to meet me in Pewter to trade it.

@Niiko @Bossclydeo You both won the Clefables auction. Please add me on discord or lemme know when you can log on to trade.

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