Ichibann Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Post is currently broken after some forum changes - Will most likely have to do a new one when I have the time Welcome to my Unofficial tier list for bosses! This isn't a guide on how to beat bosses but an attempt to classify them by rankings. Due to the new changes, it was decided to make a thread based on the one by idkup. The top 15-20 spot of a boss list should be consistent for everyone. Choosing the last remaining bosses can be an entangled task if you're hesitating or confused. It especially becomes harsh when you're new to the variable PvE content of PRO. This is mostly to help people who are confused and want to weight and compare the multiple rewards Every changelog is posted at the bottom of the thread. Ranking S tier - The best of the best. Those are bosses that have an insane or very good pool of pokemon along with excellent items and money rewards. Do not skip those. A tier - Generally the most common bosses, which are worth doing as well. B tier - Suboptimal bosses compared to the other tiers; fighting them is not recommended, unless the goal is to fetch a certain reward. It could also be worth fighting them if you don't have access to enough bosses from the other tiers. The rankings were chosen based on 3 principal criteria, in that order; 1. Pokemon pool available (3rd reward and random reward) 2. Item's reward available 3. Money reward A good pokemon pool is better than a good money reward in my opinion. This could be showcased in certain situations. Tier List S+ Medusa and Eldir Spoiler Medusa and Eldir - Located in Legends Cave Medusa Eldir Notable rewards: Chimchar, Gligar, Alolan vulpix, Alolan grimer Rare candies, Kimono(s), DC clothes, Mini Ms medallion Excellent money pool (Up to 60k) Lance Spoiler Lance - Located in Dragons Shrine (South-east of Dragons Den) Notable rewards: Dratini, Axew, Swablu, Bagon, Skrelp Rare candy, Focus sash, Weakness policy Decent money pool (20-40k) Battle bot Spoiler Battle Bot - Located in Dock Island House 2 Notable rewards: Dratini, Larvitar, Goomy, Beldum, Gible, Bagon, Access to Phione Master ball, membership medallion. Biggest money pool [Data is missing for the rest as tweaked recently] Urahara Spoiler Urahara - Located in Pokemon tower 3F Notable rewards: Larvesta, Larvitar, Riolu Focus sash, Choice band, Choice Scarf, Life orb, TZ clothes, Hollow mask Decent money pool (20-40k) Entei Guardian Spoiler Entei guardian - Located in Route 25 Cave Notable rewards: Bulbasaur, Charmander, Chimchar, Tepig, Access to Entei Choice band Decent money pool (20-40k) S Shary and Shaui Spoiler Shary and Shaui - Located in Love island house 1 Shary Shaui Notable rewards: Eevee, Buneary, Audino, Deino, Pancham Focus sash, Rare candies, Goomy hat, Lunch box Nice money pool ~ Data still in test to define the range Terminator Spoiler Terminator - Located in Mt.Silver Moltres Chamber Notable rewards: Porygon, Rotom, Solosis, Alolan-grimer, Klink Focus sash, Rare candies, Dubious disc, Up-grade Decent money pool (20-40k) Tigerous Spoiler Tigerous - Located in Eumi Island Theme Park 2 Notable rewards: Rotom, Klefki. Rare candy, Focus sash, Eumi tokens Decent money pool (20-40k) Spectify Spoiler Spectify - Located in Sandgem townhouse Notable rewards: Totodile, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Bagon, Eevee Rare candy, Nugget, Big pearl, Master ball Decent money pool (20-40k) Logan Spoiler Logan - Located in Cave of Justice Notable rewards: Chimchar, Timburr Focus sash, Life orb, Logan mask Decent money pool (20-40k) Saphirr Spoiler Saphirr - Located in Route 227 Notable rewards: Larvesta, Charmander, Chimchar, Darumaka, Cyndaquil, Torchic Focus sash, Rare candy, Fire gem Decent money pool (20-40k) Pewdie and Diepy Spoiler Pewdie and Diepy - Located in Goldenrod City Game Corner Pewdie Diepy Notable rewards: Beldum, Dedenne, Carbink, Togepi, Ralts, Solosis, Swirlix Rare candy, Focus sash Good money pool (Up to 80k) Professor Oak Spoiler Professor Oak - Located in Cinnabar Lab Room 2 Notable rewards: Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Rotom, Dratini Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Koichi Spoiler Koichi - Located in Saffron City Dojo Notable rewards: Tyrogue, Ralts, Riolu, Pancham Rare candy, Focus sash, Weakness Policy Decent money pool (20-40k) Steven Spoiler Steven - Located in Valley of Steel underground (South of Lavaridge Town) Notable rewards: Klefki, Drilbur, Beldum, Mawile, Riolu, Pawniard, Skarmory Rare candy, Focus sash, Electric gem, Ice stone Decent money pool (20-40k) Bruno Spoiler Bruno - Located in Mt. Mortar Lower Cave Notable rewards: Meditite, Scraggy Focus sash, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Professor birch Spoiler Professor Birch - Located in Verdanturf Town House 2 Notable rewards: Torchic, Mudkip, Treecko [iTEMS MISSING] Decent money pool (20-40k) Link Spoiler Link - Located in Twinleaf Town House 2 Notable rewards: Skarmory, Absol, Tepig, Honedge Focus sash, Tingle clothes, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) A+ Officer Shamac Spoiler Officer Shamac - Located in Pewter Jail Notable rewards: Lapras, Mudkip, Mincinno, Goomy Focus sash, Dubious disc, Weakness policy, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Morty Spoiler Morty - Located in Mt.Pyre 4F (Top floor) Notable rewards: Rotom, Pumpkaboo, Phantump, Yamask, Litwick Focus sash, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Letrix Spoiler Letrix - Located in Valley Windworks Notable rewards: Togepi, Solosis, Drilbur Focus sash, Max Repel, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Neroli Spoiler Neroli - Located in Ilex Forest Notable rewards: Ralts, Goomy, Flabebe, Litwick Focus sash, Hibiscus hat, Pansy flower, Orchid Flower, Anemone Flower, Jasmine Flower Decent money pool (20-40k) Maribela Spoiler Maribela - Located in Floaroma Meadow Notable rewards: Ralts, Larvesta, Eevee, Fennekin [iTEMS MISSING] Decent money pool (20-40k) Chuck Spoiler Chuck - Located in Saffron City (Gold's gym) Notable rewards: Shroomish, Chimchar, Mienfoo, Timburr Focus sash, Rare candy, Weakness policy Decent money pool (20-40k) Lt.Surge Spoiler Lt.Surge - Located in New Mauville Notable rewards: Rotom, Helioptile, Tynamo Focus sash, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) A Brock Brock - Located in Diglett's Cave Notable rewards: Aerodactyl, Kabuto, Omanyte Rare candy, Stardust, Star piece, Dome/Helix Fossil, Old Amber, Nugget, Big nugget Decent money pool (20-40k) Professor Elm Spoiler Professor Elm - Located in Ruins of Alph Notable rewards: Totodile, Cyndaquil, Chikorita, Togepi, Larvitar Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Toothless Spoiler Toothless - Located in Abandoned Ship B1F (Room 1) Notable rewards: Gible, Beldum Rare candy (Literally gives 1) Decent money pool (20-40k) Officer Jenny Spoiler Officer Jenny - Located in pinkan island lighthouse 2F Notable rewards: Squirtle, Electrike, Lillipup [iTEMS MISSING] Decent money pool (20-40k) Ash Westbrook Spoiler Ash Westbrook - Located in Spear Pillar Notable rewards: Vullaby Air Ballon [Data is missing for the rest as tweaked recently] Klohver Spoiler Klohver - Located in Pinkan Island Meadow Notable rewards: Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Skiddo Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Suicune Guardian Spoiler Suicune guardian - Located in Secluded Lake (Lake of Rage) Notable rewards: Oshawott, Bergmite, Access to Suicune Choice specs Decent money pool (20-40k) Raikou Guardian Spoiler Raikou guardian - Located in Secret Base Alpha Notable rewards: Tynamo, Blitzle, Access to Raikou Choice scarf Decent money pool (20-40k) Gingery Jones Spoiler Gingery Jones - Located in Feral Site (Fiery Path) Notable rewards: Tyrunt, Amaura, Timburr, Vullaby, Pancham Fossils; Claw, Root, Amber, Armor Decent money pool (20-40k) Erika Spoiler Erika - Located in Viridian Maze Notable rewards: Ferroseed, Larvesta, Turtwig Focus sash, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) Jessie & James Spoiler Jessie & James - Located in Celadon City Jessie James Notable rewards: Inkay, Frilish, Foongus, Porygon Silver disc, Team rocket clothes Nice money pool (Also steal some of your money if you lose) Naruto Fanboy Spoiler Naruto Fanboy - Located in Desert Ruins Notable rewards: Porygon, Togepi, Tynamo Focus sash, Rare candy Decent money pool (20-40k) A- Misty Spoiler Misty - Located in Route 41 Notable rewards: Togepi, Feebas, Oshawott Pearl Decent money pool (20-40k) Naero Spoiler Naero - Located in Cerulean Cave B1F Notable rewards: Togepi, Smoochum, Elekid, Munchlax, Magby No item rewards Gives access to daycare Decent money pool (20-40k) B+ Lorelei Spoiler Lorelei - Located in Ice Path B2F Notable rewards: Lapras Ice stone, Lapras mount, Focus sash Decent money pool (20-40k) Xylos Spoiler Xylos - Located in Pokemon club (Vermillion city) Notable rewards: Eevee Ice stone, Electric gem, Fire gem, Ice gem Decent money pool (20-40k) B Sage Spoiler Sage - Located in Sprout Tower Notable rewards: Eevee No interesting rewards item-wise Poor money reward (10k or less) Pumpkin king Spoiler Pumpkin King - Located in Vermillion graveyard Notable rewards: Pawniard Shiny stone? Poor money reward (10k or less) MISSING DATA (FOR NOW) Professor Birch. Missing Item and pokemon rewards. Maribela. Missing Item and pokemon rewards. Officer Jenny. Missing Item and pokemon rewards. Please note that the reasoning behind the ranking is currently partly subjective due to the lack of different points of view. It will be updated following balances and changes that are made. Feel free to comment on your disagreement towards a ranking and I will thoroughly explore your suggestion(s). Changelogs Spoiler This post is a huge WIP ! Changelogs will be posted as a different message following suggestions/changes Changelogs for 8th June 2020. - Guide mostly completed, all bosses and rewards added with the exception of the missing ones. - Added every ranking for bosses that are not missing - Added links to wiki page following the locations of these NPCS - Added the sprite of the teams that currently have a tier; the others will be added when classified accordingly S+ tier Urahara: Excellent pokemon pool with an insane amount of good rewards item-wise (Choice items to Hollow Mask). S+ deserved for now Ash Westbrook: While there's still a lot of missing data, this boss gives a tremendous amount of money (Almost double) compared to the casual bosses BattleBot: Same as Westbrook, some missing data but an insane amount of money. Possibly the most worth boss to do Medusa and Eldir: Excellent pokemon pool (Alolans!) with a good combination of money and items. Has a chance for mini-MS and DC Clothes Shary and Shaui: Not necessarily the best bosses item-wise, but there are still interesting options (Rare candies, Goomy hat, Lunch Box). Excellent pokemon pool and money reward S tier Terminator: Excellent pool available with decent items and money reward Steven: Excellent pool, good money, and good items available Spectify: Excellent items with a nice pool and money reward Logan: Decent pokemon pool, could be better, but insane items. 2x Life orb and Logan Mask. Average money. Saphirr: Excellent pool with some nice items (Rare candies, Fire gems, Focus sash) Tigerous: Pokemon pool could be better, decent rewards. Eumi token's pushed it to the S tier since it has the opportunity to give very good items Lance: Insane pokemon pool, arguably the best one since all these shinies/pvpable are worth millions. Nice items Entei: Insane pool, gives access to Entei and possible choice band. The Choice band pushed it to S tier A+ tier George :Excellent pool with decent rewards. Sadly not enough to push it to S tier Shamac: Very good pool with compelling rewards as well, really close to being an S tier Chuck : Amazing pool with decent items Thor: Excellent pool and a few interesting rewards, sadly not enough for S tier Link: Insane pokemon pool, some decent rewards but sadly those are entangled together in a mess of rewards. Hence, The possibility to get better rewards is lower and pushes him to A+ tier. Professor Rowan: Good pool with some nice items possibilities. A very close call to being higher might change Letrix : Decent rewards and interesting pokemon pool. A+ is perfect Koichi: Excellent pool with some nice items possibilities Brothers Pewdie and Diepy: Excellent pool and money reward, but items are in a mess. It makes it hard to get a decent item reward. Only things that stop it from being S. Morty : Very interesting pool and decent rewards. A tier Bruno: Interesting pool and rewards. Nothing too good, nothing too bad. Brock: Very nice item's reward (Nuggets, stardust, rare candies). Fossils pokemon aren't the best rewards but the item pool saves it from being lower. Gingery Jones: Good pool, even though shiny fossils odds are much better in labs. Fossils are decent rewards. Could say that it's a slightly better brock Erika: Excellent pool of pokemon, but sadly the items reward are poor. Can't get to A+ with just a nice pool. Professor Oak: Again, excellent pool, but poor rewards for the most part. So close to being A+! Klohver: Interesting pool and 2 rare candies possibilities. Outside of that and money nothing worth a lot. Suicune Guardian: Decent pool with the possibility of choice item, which is the only thing that pushes it to this tier. Raikou Guardian: Decent pool with the possibility of choice item, which is the only thing that pushes it to this tier. Same story as Suicune. Neroli: Very interesting pool and rewards! Sadly also a bit of a mess that makes it hard to push it to the further tier. Jessie and James: A rather conflicting choice to put them here because of the poor money reward, but it has an insane pokemon pool available with rocket uniforms which could sell for a bit. Naruto fanboy: Nice pool, missing data for some items but looks decent. A- Tier Professor Elm: Interesting pool, only 1 reward interesting and it's tier 2. Very close to being an A tier Bugsy: Snivy and Nincada are interesting, but the rest isn't much. Poor item rewards. My opinion might change. Naero : Nice pokemon pool, but no item's available, and a random pokemon reward is a mess of low tiers. Should be done once to unlock daycare. Misty: Feebas, Togepi, and Oshawott are nice rewards... The rest not much. Good money though. B+ tier Xylos: Has ice stone, which is nice, but Eevee is not a nice reward in my opinion. The chance of getting a shiny is abysmal and I'd rather try my chance on better pokemon. Lorelei: Has Ice stone too and Lapras, same story. The clothes aren't that interesting. B Tier The Pumpkin King: The only interesting reward in this boss is Pawniard. Would have been straight to D rank if it wasn't there. Sage: Eevee is not an interesting reward if you're trying to get money. There are better options here. Spoiler Since mega are coming very soon a lot of pokemon will have their value changed. Decided to update the list following these changes and to fix some of my errors. NEW CHANGES - Rank S- has been introduced since there's a clearer disparity in bosses' reward(s) now due to the value that mega pokemon brings. Professor Birch, Officer Jenny, and Maribela were given a tier even with missing information (mostly about items). Battle bot: Added membership (my error, sorry!). Added pokemon pool as well. The money range is still rather unknown, I need to do more testing. Ash Westbrook: Lowered to rank A. Added some item rewards and pokemon pool. The money is still decent, but the pool is too bad. Shary: Lowered to S. Genuinely saddened by the money nerf of my favorite boss duo. However, bunneary and audio are now seen as better rewards due to the mega arrival. Without it probably would have been lowered even more Lance: Bumped to S+ With casual rewards, Lance makes it's way to the top due to his nice pokemon pool. Mega Altaria and Bagon are two of the fan's favorite mega pokemon. Birch: Tentative S- A mega trio is always super interesting. Still waiting for the items. Jenny: Tentative A. Squirtle and electrike are nice mega but the rest is just subpar compared to the others for the moment. Will be updated following my results! Maribela: Tentative A+. Ralts and larvesta are two nice pokemon. Will be updated as well following the item pool! Entei guardian: Bumped to S+ Nice rewards, access to Bulbasaur, and Charmander. George: Bumped to S- Riolu and houndour are two nice Megas. George just needed a little push to make it into the S tier. Link: Bumped to S- Aegislash makes it's way to pro with having his two signature moves/abilities coded. This tier will entirely depend on how pro players actually handle and play the said pokemon. If he's played in a manner to shift and define the entire meta around as talonflame did, Link will go higher. Thor: Bumped to S- Mega larvitar! Deserved the bump. froakie(maybe?) will depend on how battle bond is obtainable in the future. If obtainable from thor, it will be bumped again. Pewdie: Bumped to S. Even with one of the most convoluted item pool, the brothers make it to S. Ralts and Beldum are two good mega pokemon. Koichi: Bumped to S Riolu and ralts nice enough to put it to S Oak: Bumped to S Gets the Kanto trio, which all have mega evolutions available. Neroli: Bumped to A+ Simply because of Ralts. An arguable bad item pool since messy. Might change! Bruno: Bumped to S- Mega-medicham is an excellent mega and will surely be played a lot in PRO. Bugsy: Bumped to S- Added ferroseed (Sorry for the mistake!). Mega scizor and mega pinsir are two nice mega, even with a bad item pool it's still worth it. Elm: Bumped to A. Pokemon/item pool are not exactly the best which is why it's so low. Larvitar though! Lt.Surge: Bumped to A+ Genuinely an error from my part for putting it so low. Rotom and Helioptile deserve better! Toohtless: Bumped to A. Just because of beldum! Spoiler Updated most of the teams with their new lineup that now include pokemon with mega stones! Birch -> Mega Blaziken Brock -> Mega Aerodactly Bruno -> Mega Steelix Bugsy (Complete new lineup) -> Scizor, Genesect, Scolipede, Volcarona, Heracross, Ninjask Diepy -> Mega Diancie Eldir -> Mega Slowbro George -> Mega Lucario Jenny -> Mega Blastoise Koichi -> Mega Gallade Lance -> Mega Garchomp Letrix -> Mega TTAr Logan -> Mega TTar Lorelei -> Mega Slowbro Medusa -> Mega Garchomp Misty -> Mega Gyarados Morty -> Mega Gengar Neroli -> Mega Diancie Oak -> Charizard X Pewdie -> Mega Latios Saphirr -> Mega Garchomp Shamac -> Mega Swampert Shary -> Mega Latias Shaui -> Mega Alakazam Spectify -> Mega Salamence Steven -> ??? Tigerous -> Mega Salamence Terminator -> Mega Latios Thor -> Mega TTar Toothless -> Mega Metagross, Credits to waleed1301, Splittie for the help with some information. Credits to the wiki workers who worked their sweat to ensure that most of the information is correct. Credit to idkup for the overall inspiration for the guide. Edited April 22, 2021 by Ichibann 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhimoso Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Nice guide! 1 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxydK7CUEwL47Ym7hIkMbSA <- Youtube channel with guides! https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/forum/13-game-guide/ <- Check my game guides (and other's guides) here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raika Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Very useful! 1 New Leaf. Shaving 999 Rattatas in RT 1. Gen 8-9 Pokemon PvP tips PRO Awards 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylveon Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Really useful guide, will definitely save much time when deciding which bosses are worth doing. 1 "Because if there is something worth fighting for, it is life. Extinction is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrader Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Nice work ichi! Keep it up 1 I project a storm A whirlwind of gales and torrents A cosmic array so vibrant Born emerging from heat and flames Tempered by violent rays ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euripides Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Great guide! Neatly done. I think you should add the "Access to Raikou" part to the Raikou Guardian reward pool. 1 No amount of money ever bought a second of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G3n3r4l Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 12/10 dentists recommend good job but pumpkin king has shuckle, which makes it S++ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichibann Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Great guide! Neatly done. I think you should add the "Access to Raikou" part to the Raikou Guardian reward pool. Corrected, thanks. Wasn't correctly re-added when copy-pasted. A little update in the meantime, it seems like Shary and Shaui received a slight nerf on her money reward. The double boss stays to S+ tier currently so that I can gather more data on the range, but will most likely be moved to S tier due to this nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichigo6 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 thank you for gr8 guide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichibann Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Mega update! (not a huge one actually) Since mega are coming very soon a lot of pokemon will have their value changed. Decided to update the list following these changes and to fix some of my errors. NEW CHANGES - Rank S- has been introduced since there's a clearer disparity in bosses' reward(s) now due to the value that mega pokemon brings. Professor Birch, Officer Jenny, and Maribela were given a tier even with missing information (mostly about items). [spoiler=25/07/2020 - Changelogs! Mega update] Battle bot: Added membership (my error, sorry!). Added pokemon pool as well. The money range is still rather unknown, I need to do more testing. Ash Westbrook: Lowered to rank A. Added some item rewards and pokemon pool. The money is still decent, but the pool is too bad. Shary: Lowered to S. Genuinely saddened by the money nerf of my favorite boss duo. However, bunneary and audio are now seen as better rewards due to the mega arrival. Without it probably would have been lowered even more Lance: Bumped to S+ With casual rewards, Lance makes it's way to the top due to his nice pokemon pool. Mega Altaria and Bagon are two of the fan's favorite mega pokemon. Birch: Tentative S- A mega trio is always super interesting. Still waiting for the items. Jenny: Tentative A. Squirtle and electrike are nice mega but the rest is just subpar compared to the others for the moment. Will be updated following my results! Maribela: Tentative A+. Ralts and larvesta are two nice pokemon. Will be updated as well following the item pool! Entei guardian: Bumped to S+ Nice rewards, access to Bulbasaur, and Charmander. George: Bumped to S- Riolu and houndour are two nice Megas. George just needed a little push to make it into the S tier. Link: Bumped to S- Aegislash makes it's way to pro with having his two signature moves/abilities coded. This tier will entirely depend on how pro players actually handle and play the said pokemon. If he's played in a manner to shift and define the entire meta around as talonflame did, Link will go higher. Thor: Bumped to S- Mega larvitar! Deserved the bump. froakie(maybe?) will depend on how battle bond is obtainable in the future. If obtainable from thor, it will be bumped again. Pewdie: Bumped to S. Even with one of the most convoluted item pool, the brothers make it to S. Ralts and Beldum are two good mega pokemon. Koichi: Bumped to S Riolu and ralts are nice enough to put it to S Oak: Bumped to S Gets the Kanto trio, which all have mega evolutions available. Neroli: Bumped to A+ Simply because of Ralts. An arguable bad item pool since messy. Might change! Bruno: Bumped to S- Mega-medicham is an excellent mega and will surely be played a lot in PRO. Bugsy: Bumped to S- Added ferroseed (Sorry for the mistake!). Mega scizor and mega pinsir are two nice mega, even with a bad item pool it's still worth it. Elm: Bumped to A. Pokemon/item pool are not exactly the best which is why it's so low. Larvitar though! Lt.Surge: Bumped to A+ Genuinely an error from my part for putting it so low. Rotom and Helioptile deserve better! Toohtless: Bumped to A. Just because of beldum! Edited August 21, 2020 by Ichibann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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