Norex Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 bump My Pokemon Shop My Lending Shop My Pokemon Wishlist Ascension Guild Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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0rekastanie Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 2:53 PM, Norex said: Spawn Change Suggestions (Note: These are just examples to give some ideas for spawn changes, feel free to share your thoughts and ideas in the comments) Credits for some ideas on the spawn changes and source for provided data Reveal hidden contents https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/164557-excavation-revamp/ https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/164557-excavation-revamp/?do=findComment&comment=933935 https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/112424-hoenn-excavation-sites-guide/ Feral Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Growlithe -> Rattata-Alolan Vulpix -> Numel Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Cubone -> Sandile Torkoal -> Houndour Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Absol Darumaka -> Fletchling Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Deino -> Grimer-Alolan Pawniard -> Salandit / Charmander Historical Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Machop -> Makuhita Phanpy Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Baltoy -> Diglett Alolan Heracross Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Croagunk -> Buneary Scraggy -> Mienfoo Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Hawlucha -> Timburr Riolu -> Stufful / Meditie Haunted Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Gastly Misdreavous -> Drifloon Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Duskull -> Phantump Shuppet -> Sandygast Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Sableye Yamask -> Marowak-Alolan Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Rotom Honedge -> Mimikyu Mineral Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Bronzor -> Magnemite / Rhyhorn Onix -> Geodude-Alolan Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Lunatone -> Tirtouga Solrock -> Archen Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Beldum Aron Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Drilbur -> Rockruff Larvitar -> Togedemaru / Mawile Glacial Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Swinub Snorunt Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Mantyke -> Vanillite Shellder -> Cubchoo Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Bergmite -> Sandshrew-Alolan Sneasel -> Snover Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Corphish -> Vulpix-Alolan Piplup -> Crabominable / Wishiwashi / Squirtle Natural Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Tangela Combee -> Pineco Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Budew -> Scyther Burmy -> Pinsir Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Karrablast -> Exeggutor-Alolan Shroomish -> Dhelmise Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Venipede -> Bulbasaur Ferroseed -> Steenee / Foongus Wondrous Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Snubbull -> Jigglypuff Clefairy Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Marill -> Dedenne Spoink -> Swirlix Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Flabébé -> Togepi / Audino Sigilyph -> Swablu Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Klefki -> Cutiefly Porygon -> Comfey / Ralts Briny Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Buizel -> Wooper Slowpoke Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Carvanha -> Staryu Clamperl Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Feebas -> Frillish Shellos -> Tympole Requirements: 4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Alomomola -> Mareanie (pls?) / Froakie Mudkip Draconic Site Reveal hidden contents Requirements: 0 discoveries Rarity: Common Horsea Rhyhorn -> Mareep Requirements: 1000 discoveries Rarity: Uncommon Trapinch Skrelp Requirements: 2000 discoveries Rarity: Rare Goomy -> Axew Noibat -> Bagon Requirements: +4000 discoveries Rarity: Super Rare Dratini -> Drampa / Turtonator Gible -> Jangmo-o Changes to available items Reveal hidden contents Requirements for Fossils: 4000 discoveries Helix Fossil - Omanyte Dome Fossil - Kabuto Old Amber - Aerodactyl Root Fossil - Lileep Claw Fossil - Anorith Skull Fossil - Cranidos Armor Fossil - Shieldon Sail Fossil - Amaura Jaw Fossil - Tyrunt Revival Herb (1000+ Discoveries only) Heal Powder -> Random Vitamins Energy Powder -> Random Vitamins Feral Site Rare Bone -> Nugget Historical Site Nugget Haunted Site Tiny Mushroom -> Nugget Mineral Site Stardust -> Nugget Glacial Site Pearl -> Nugget Natural Site Big Mushroom -> Nugget Wondrous Site Star Piece -> Nugget Briny Site Big Pearl -> Nugget Draconic Site Big Nugget First of all Fossils fit well into Excavation Sites and can even be synched with an NPC in the Historical Site. Revival Herbs are always useful for rather new players and can still be useful to more advanced players as they can be used on quests, events, leveling pokemon etc. While Heal and Energy Powder may be useful to a certain extend to newer players, they feel like a waste for most of the playerbase after a while. I would suggest to change them to items which are pretty much always needed and useful like Vitamins (Protein, Iron, HP Up etc.) or make Heal and Energy Powder exchangable for Artifact pieces. Changes to Artifact Pieces Store Reveal hidden contents Fossils: → Root Fossil (100) → Claw Fossil (100) → Old Amber (200) → Sail Fossil (350) -> (200) → Jaw Fossil (350) -> (200) → Skull Fossil (500) -> (350) → Armor Fossil (500) -> (350) Omanyte -> (100) Kabuto -> (100) Vitamins: → Protein (7) -> (6) → Calcium (7) -> (6) → Carbos (7) -> (6) → PP Up (7) -> (6) → Iron (7) -> (6) → Zinc (7) -> (6) → HP Up (7) -> (6) Consumables: → Focus Sash (6) → Air balloon (6) → Weakness Policy (6) → Mental Herb (5) → Power Herb (5) → White Herb (5) -> Master Ball (150) -> Nature Reroll Ticket (1.350) -> Reroll Ticket (2.250) Battle Items: → Smooth rock (250) -> (10) → Heat Rock (250) -> (10) → Icy Rock (250) -> (10) → Damp Rock (250) -> (10) → Eviolite (300) -> (15) → Safety Goggles (500) -> (300) → Rocky Helmet (500) -> (300) → Assault Vest (500) -> (300) TM Moves: → TM28 - Dig (50) -> (15) → TM26 - Earthquake (75) -> (20) → TM69 - Roost (75) -> (20) → TM53 - Psyshock (50) -> (10) → TM75 - Swords Dance (100) -> (15) → TM48 - Rock Slide (50) -> (10) TM50 - Substitute -> (30) Gems: → Ice Gem (30) -> (12) → Electric Gem (30) -> (12) → Fire Gem (30) -> (12) → Ground Gem (10) -> (6) → Dragon Gem (10) -> (6) → Fairy Gem (10) -> (6) → Flying Gem (10) -> (6) → Ghost Gem (10) -> (6) → Rock Gem (10) -> (6) → Poison Gem (10) -> (6) → Bug Gem (10) -> (6) → Fighting Gem (10) -> (6) → Normal Gem (10) -> (6) → Grass Gem (10) -> (6) → Psychic Gem (10) -> (6) → Steel Gem (10) -> (6) → Dark Gem (10) -> (6) → Water Gem (10) -> (6) Evolution Items: → Protector (50) → Reaper Cloth (50) → Razor Fang (50) → Razor Claw (50) → Sachet (500) -> (250) → Whipped Dream (500) -> (250) → UpGrade (500) -> (50) → Dubious Disc (500) -> (50) Damage-reducing Berries: → Shuca Berry (10) -> (6) → Chople Berry (10) -> (6) → Passho Berry (10 )-> (6) → Occa Berry (10) -> (6) → Yache Berry (10) -> (6) Stat-modifyng Berries: Salac Berry -> (6) Apicot Berry -> (6) Ganlon Berry -> (6) Lansat Berry -> (6) Liechi Berry -> (6) Micle Berry -> (6) Petaya Berry -> (6) Starf Berry -> (6) Mega Stones: → Aggronite (1000) -> (600) → Steelixite (1000) -> (600) Exclusive Cosmetic Items Shoutout to @dangarangs for the idea and some examples. https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/155148-excavation-only-cosmetics/ Examples: Pickaxe back item Shovel back item Kabuto Hat Omanyte Hat Lileep Hat Rocky Helmet Hat Tyrantrum Mount Bastiodon Mount Rampardos Mount A Mine Car Mount Dino Outfit Excavation Coat back item For most of the time my personal experience with the Artifact Pieces shop has been that I would only buy Focus Sashes as these are the most valuable items you can get and they are rather easy to sell. Most other items are not worth their price, are not needed or have other sources you can get them from easily. To give Artifact Pieces a better use I suggest to lower some prices in a balanced way to make it worth buying other items than focus sashes and a few other items. Balancing prices and available items is not easy by any means but I tried to come up with fair prices based on a calculation. To understand the suggested Artifact Pieces prices and that calculation you need to know some numbers. For a full Excavation Site run we end up with an average of 64 Artifact pieces (I used 60 for cleaner calculations) and a Focus Sash costs 6 Artifact pieces and sells for about 2.000 - 2.500 Pokedollar (I used 2.000 Pokedollar for the calcuation). Buying 10 Focus Sashes for 60 Artifact Pieces and selling them for 2.000 Pokedollar each leads to a daily profit of 20.000 pokedollars. Example of the calcuation based on a Reroll Ticket: -> Reroll Ticket (2.250) -> 750.000 / 20.000 = 37.5 -> 37.5 x 60 = 2.250 -> Reroll Ticket (2.250) -> 750.000 (Current average price of a Reroll Ticket) / 20.000 (daily profit from selling Focus Sashes) = 37.5 (days to purchase a Reroll Ticket from another player if selling the Focus Sashes daily) -> 37.5 x 60 (Artifact Pieces gained daily from a full Excavation Sites run) = 2.250 (price of a Reroll Ticket in Artifact Pieces) The goal is to end up with item prices which are somewhat balanced in a way that makes the items worth buying instead of selling the Focus Sashes and buying the desired items from another source. Fossils: I dont know why Omanytes and Kabutos Fossils are not available yet but I would suggest to add them as they are the only missing Fossils. I think the prices for Fossils are too expensive overall but I did not change them too much since I dont know if there is some in-depth balancing behind that and the fact that they are untradable. Vitamins: Adjusted the prices so you are able to buy 10 Vitamins after a full Excavation Sites run. Consumables: Adding certain items like Reroll Tickets to the Artifact Pieces Shop makes Excavation Sites even more lucrative. However I did not suggest more random items to keep the theme of the Excavation Sites alive for the most part but I think Reroll Tickets can be a very good addition as they serve as a more or less long-term-goal players can work for. Battle Items: Adjusted the prices based on the explained calculation. I did not suggest additional items as the already existing ones fit the Excavation Sites them perfectly well. TM Moves: Adjusted the prices based on the explained calculation and added the TM for Substitute since it is only available in Trainers Valley so far. Mega Stones: Since obtaining 1.000 Artifact Pieces to purchase a megastone takes over 2 weeks of full Excavation Site runs and megastone-quests usually do not take longer than a 1-2 days at most for the majority of the playerbase I would suggest to lower the price a little bit to 600. While I think adding megastones exclusive to Excavation Sites is a good way to make them interesting again it should be considered that some players do not like to do Excavation Sites as well. I think lowering the price from 1.000 to 600 Artifact Pieces would be a good change which could motivate some players to do more Excavation Sites again. Obviously players who already bought the megastones for the original price of 1.000 Artifact Pieces would need to get compensated with the extra Artifact Pieces. +1 for great idea (change pokemon spawn, add reroll ticket, and change point for mega stones) but I think to keep the energy powder, I use it a lot to train pokemon if I'm not relog and back to pokecenter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgiveme Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 +1 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norex Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 bump My Pokemon Shop My Lending Shop My Pokemon Wishlist Ascension Guild Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marksman1303 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Did you see that you can now exchange your fossils for the excavation points? Got my Aerodactyl Megastone directly. Discord: Marksman1303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norex Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hey, yes I saw that change already. A small step into the right direction for the future of excavations already. bump My Pokemon Shop My Lending Shop My Pokemon Wishlist Ascension Guild Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norex Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 bump My Pokemon Shop My Lending Shop My Pokemon Wishlist Ascension Guild Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vithu96 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I read everything and I completely agree with Norex, we need some change +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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