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A Reason to Smile : Banned Mawile


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6 hours ago, onkar said:

-1 Reeeeeeee 

 

IMO we should give it a Week/Month testing period before ban. (I have a really epik one I wanna use it 😭)

 

did you not read the part where i said to suspect test it?

 

 

and in all seriousness can the rest of you stop with the memeing unless you have some genuine feedback to give

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3 hours ago, makeitwitchu said:

I commend you on such a well-written post, g3n. It's a shame the community doesn't really seem capable of or interested in providing genuine feedback. I think all in all the majority of negative comments stem from the fact that the post is a bit premature. Most people want to see how the meta plays out in practice before forming their opinions. Hopefully, people will return to your well-phrased arguments in the near future though when talking about this topic becomes more relevant. 

 

No wammy, it's because in the first few lines of the post i wrote "I simply do not care if you just put a "-1" without any reasoning"
so now everyone is just putting a -1 without any reasoning

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44 minutes ago, mskell said:

You realize that we are running out of options as far as Gen 7 pokes to add to the game right? 

 

 

Uhuh 100% we are definitely running out of gen 7 pokemon to release, while still having only 2 full released, definitely almost 0.

 

46 minutes ago, mskell said:

Here’s my take on this. If you’re going to ban everything in whats supposed to be our OU format

so yea, since Mega Mawile is UBERs, because as i clarified in the post, we have two gen 7 mons, and neither can touch mawile, so we're basically gen 6. And where was mawile in gen 6? UBERS! which brings us back to your statement, how are we banning pokes in the OU format. we don't have many of the fast resisting sucker punch counters that gen 7 has at the moment, so until then i'm saying suspect test it at minimum. there can always be another test once more pokemon are released.

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I do think when the only pokemon that can even live 2 hits from a +2 mega-mawile is mega aggron and thats if mawile isnt running fire fang which then its 2hit ko'ed and aggron doesnt even ko back.

max hp max atk ada aggron calc
252+ Atk Aggron-Mega Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 210-248 (79.5 - 93.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
max hp max def impish mega aggron calc
0 Atk Aggron-Mega Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 158-188 (59.8 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


max hp max atk mega mawile +2 agaisnt mega aggron (aggron max hp max def)
without fire fang

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Aggron-Mega: 111-131 (32.2 - 38%) -- 95.9% chance to 3HKO
with fire fang

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 154-183 (44.7 - 53.1%) -- 28.9% chance to 2HKO

max hp max atk mega mawile +2 against ada/brave mega aggron max hp max atk
without fire fang

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aggron-Mega: 137-162 (39.8 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
with fire fang

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 192-226 (55.8 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You can check for yourself and see.  i have yet to see a pokemon that can live 2 hits.  im very certain that if you look at your current pvp team and look at some mega mawile calcs you would see that mawile could probably run through your team as well with sd and sucker punch.

I am not in full protest of its ban but i do want it to be tested.  Something this powerful where we dont have things like psychic terrain to stop priority from tapulele yet might be to much for the metagame to handle.

as always nice post @g3n3r4l  might want to add this calc to the post as i could not find a pokemon that can live 2 as well as mega aggron.


Edit:
just found out that mega steelix shocking no one can also tank on mega mawile at +2 and even OHKO mawile with some atk in some cases.

brave mega steelix max atk hp vs mega-mawile

252+ Atk Steelix-Mega Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 288-342 (109 - 129.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

impish mega steelix max hp def vs mega mawile
4 Atk Steelix-Mega Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 218-258 (82.5 - 97.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

mawile vs impish mega steelix max hp def.
without fire fang

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix-Mega: 111-131 (31.3 - 37%) -- 77.9% chance to 3HKO
with fire fang
+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix-Mega: 206-244 (58.1 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

mawile vs brave mega steelix max hp atk.
without fire fang
+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Steelix-Mega: 137-162 (38.7 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
with fire fang
+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Steelix-Mega: 254-300 (71.7 - 84.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


 

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25 minutes ago, Sweesy64 said:

just one single question,,,, why mawile and not sableye ? its much more devastating in the right hands.

 and now.... why ban everything ? why dont let the qwotes deciide `?

 

1. You can make a thread about mega sableye if want with refferences and checks but you will see mega sableye isn't that op

2. to make game better and ballanced

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