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Petition to Unban Greninja from Ranked OU PvP

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1 minute ago, ForgiveMe said:

dont be a waller funny to say when greninja is a speciala ttacker

scarf gren heavily danages zapdos and peliper via rock slide with scarf ty

 

what? there isnt special walls? I'm so sorry I must be playing another game tho

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4 minutes ago, Saransh2848 said:

-1.Greninja as an individual mon isn't that problematic, but the offensive pressure it applies with spikes and it is just too good when paired with wave 3 mega like metagross/alakazam(to name a few)also being able to defeat defogger like rotom with hp grass is something that requires people to build teams to specifically counter things like this which I think is unhealthy for meta.Also,its unpredictability is a major issue.
 
It's gonna get unbanned  in future with release of tapus I suppose,but unbanning it now will not be a good decision.
 

Hey thanks for providing your thoughts,

 

But If I take your theory into consideration, than stall mons like chansey and alomolola should be the first to get banned ( not that I want them banned, just logic) becuase they form almost unbreakable teams and cores with other stall mons. As for the defog pressure, ferrothron does it way better than greninja. It can both stealth rock and spikes and power whip and leech seed the life out of poor rotom. Why isnt it banned ( again dont want it banned, just saying)

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4 minutes ago, ZetLocrito95 said:

I can't take your post seriously by saying "he is not experienced" in pvp, considering you never finished top at the end of the season, while he did.

 

Gren ban has been discussed for years, that's true. However, as I said in another post, I never found it hard to counter. People need to understand that this is not gen 6. It's gen 6 pokémon working with gen 7 mechanics, which makes the game different.

 

Resuming: +1

Thanks for providing your lovely opinion. Have a Good day ^^

Let me show you a fun story 

 

Turn 1 

 

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turn 2 

 

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turn 3 

 

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turn 4 

 

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WOW what a monster 

greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing

It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch

gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help .

 

also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny

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+1 

Greninja is has low def, spdef and hp stat. Which makes greninja fragile to so many moves. I saw people giving some undesirable reasons like people can't predict(This some trash reason). PvP is all about predicting the moves. Banning pokemons just spoil the fun.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said:

greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing

It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch

gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help .

You can't avoid e-speed with shadow sneak in the same turn, since it's +2 priority. If you are going against the ban, at least show knowledge about the meta and about how the moves work.

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Do people use greninja scarf on pro? Show me one and i'll believe you

guys guys guys

how do you get a lopunny infront of a greninja

well because greninja killed the pokemon before

am i right or not 

2 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said:

greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing

It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch

gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help .

 

also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny


There are more faster pokemons

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