Madhavxdark Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said: greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help . also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny Useing Shadowsneak is prediction mean if the player know if he/she wil use shadowsneak the conk or anyother poke will not do this priority move Edited May 2, 2021 by MadhavXDark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iammeetdp Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said: greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help . also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny Bro did u even read the post, thats the point! "4 move synodrom" Ninja is ofc OP but cant cover everything at once. When was the last time your entire team was sweeped by a ninja?never for me! It would be the best pokemon in world if it was allowed to use all its movepool in a battle, but it cant. Its limited to 4 like metagross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow2054 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, NogamEd said: Let me show you a fun story Turn 1 Reveal hidden contents turn 2 Reveal hidden contents turn 3 Reveal hidden contents turn 4 Reveal hidden contents WOW what a monster I'm just reading here for fun, not to argue, but why in the world would anyone, under normal circumstances, keep a non-scarfed greninja in on lopunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iammeetdp Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Suz said: +1 Greninja is has low def, spdef and hp stat. Which makes greninja fragile to so many moves. I saw people giving some undesirable reasons like people can't predict(This some trash reason). PvP is all about predicting the moves. Banning pokemons just spoil the fun. Excatly, Thanks for adding the great point!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Olker Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said: guys guys guys how do you get a lopunny infront of a greninja well because greninja killed the pokemon before am i right or not Or switching in on a predicted shadow sneak (the one you were whining about), or dark pulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saransh2848 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, iammeetdp said: Hey thanks for providing your thoughts, But If I take your theory into consideration, than stall mons like chansey and alomolola should be the first to get banned ( not that I want them banned, just logic) becuase they form almost unbreakable teams and cores with other stall mons. As for the defog pressure, ferrothron does it way better than greninja. It can both stealth rock and spikes and power whip and leech seed the life out of poor rotom. Why isnt it banned ( again dont want it banned, just saying) The main thing that gren has it that he has no guaranteed switchin,you can switch in clef thinking it's gonna tank a hit to scout for moves and instead get hit by gunk shot. Same for chansey,if the gren turns out to be physical(although rare) then its a 3hko for it.The calc: 252 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 273-322 (38.8 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO At the end,i cant just stress enough the spikes part+unpredictability. Have a good day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saransh2848 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Shadow2054 said: I'm just reading here for fun, not to argue, but why in the world would anyone, under normal circumstances, keep a non-scarfed greninja in on lopunny. true,why would anyone keep gren infront of lop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogamed Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Ok, let say that the problem is mega lopunny, so what vs ferro? Lets see what happened... First turn Spoiler 2nd turn Spoiler 3th turn Spoiler 4th turn Spoiler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Saransh2848 said: The main thing that gren has it that he has no guaranteed switchin,you can switch in clef thinking it's gonna tank a hit to scout for moves and instead get hit by gunk shot. Same for chansey,if the gren turns out to be physical(although rare) then its a 3hko for it.The calc: 252 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 273-322 (38.8 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO At the end,i cant just stress enough the spikes part+unpredictability. Have a good day Can't your chansey toxic greninja? Always chansey has softboiled, toxic, softboiled, t-wave/rocks for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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