Nogamed Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, ForgiveMe said: dont be a waller funny to say when greninja is a speciala ttacker scarf gren heavily danages zapdos and peliper via rock slide with scarf ty what? there isnt special walls? I'm so sorry I must be playing another game tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iammeetdp Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saransh2848 said: -1.Greninja as an individual mon isn't that problematic, but the offensive pressure it applies with spikes and it is just too good when paired with wave 3 mega like metagross/alakazam(to name a few)also being able to defeat defogger like rotom with hp grass is something that requires people to build teams to specifically counter things like this which I think is unhealthy for meta.Also,its unpredictability is a major issue. It's gonna get unbanned in future with release of tapus I suppose,but unbanning it now will not be a good decision. Hey thanks for providing your thoughts, But If I take your theory into consideration, than stall mons like chansey and alomolola should be the first to get banned ( not that I want them banned, just logic) becuase they form almost unbreakable teams and cores with other stall mons. As for the defog pressure, ferrothron does it way better than greninja. It can both stealth rock and spikes and power whip and leech seed the life out of poor rotom. Why isnt it banned ( again dont want it banned, just saying) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iammeetdp Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, ZetLocrito95 said: I can't take your post seriously by saying "he is not experienced" in pvp, considering you never finished top at the end of the season, while he did. Gren ban has been discussed for years, that's true. However, as I said in another post, I never found it hard to counter. People need to understand that this is not gen 6. It's gen 6 pokémon working with gen 7 mechanics, which makes the game different. Resuming: +1 Thanks for providing your lovely opinion. Have a Good day ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogamed Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Let me show you a fun story Turn 1 Spoiler turn 2 Spoiler turn 3 Spoiler turn 4 Spoiler WOW what a monster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgiveme Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help . also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny Edited May 2, 2021 by ForgiveMe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 +1 Greninja is has low def, spdef and hp stat. Which makes greninja fragile to so many moves. I saw people giving some undesirable reasons like people can't predict(This some trash reason). PvP is all about predicting the moves. Banning pokemons just spoil the fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olker Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said: greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help . You can't avoid e-speed with shadow sneak in the same turn, since it's +2 priority. If you are going against the ban, at least show knowledge about the meta and about how the moves work. Edited May 2, 2021 by ZetLocrito95 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogamed Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Do people use greninja scarf on pro? Show me one and i'll believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgiveme Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 guys guys guys how do you get a lopunny infront of a greninja well because greninja killed the pokemon before am i right or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said: greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help . also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny There are more faster pokemons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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