PRO's Moderation Discussion

[Qeight]

If theres an orange word in any text the person that said it should get muted regardless if mistake or not. Just how it is.

The thing is we actually don't do that unless its aimed at someone. We give a warning before we muted, insta mutes shouldn't happen.

[Saturnalien]

You realize stuff happens without tickets being filed, right? I never claimed that you do not enforce at all, but I have witnessed multiple cases were scammers got a pass, simply because the staff member didn't consider it scamming. Taking advantage of new players and their lack of knowledge is what I would call scamming.

 

You claim to be able to see everything, but how do you expect to see something that never gets reported/filed? lol

 

Also, please stop acting like I'm claiming every single old player gets a pass. I never said that. Certain old players do, not all of them.

 

Anyway nevermind. I enjoy the game and so far I haven't had any problems on my end, so that's that.

[Qeight]

You realize stuff happens without tickets being filed, right? I never claimed that you do not enforce at all, but I have witnessed multiple cases were scammers got a pass, simply because the staff member didn't consider it scamming. Taking advantage of new players and their lack of knowledge is what I would call scamming.

Sent me a DM with the Names please so I can take a look at this. :)

 

You claim to be able to see everything, but how do you expect to see something that never gets reported/filed? lol

Do you expect us to do something when we can't see it?

 

Certain old players do, not all of them.

Who? When?

 

The issues you are bringing up are far from the reality and feel very baseless without evidence, I want to believe you but its very hard to do so.

[Saturnalien]

See, this is the english problem I was mentioning. Context goes under and misunderstandings happen.

 

"Do you expect us to do something when we can't see it?" Who said anything about we? I was talking about you only. You said "you" see everything. I'm saying, you can't see things that other staff members do not file or players do not report. Therefore things can happen behind your back and you would never notice, unless someone tells you. My point? Not everything goes through the system.

 

Also I'm not enjoying the way you talk to people, it's condescending. So let's just leave it at that. I'm not posting any names or anything else. If it should ever happen to myself and affect my game, then I will.

 

Kind regards

[Gleipnirkurea]

The thing is we actually don't do that unless its aimed at someone. We give a warning before we muted, insta mutes shouldn't happen.

Ah, instant mutes.. hmm thought it was warned first

[Guest deleteduser41af]

Q8 could u make Logan or Shinohara answer instead of you? I totally agree with Saturnalien the way u responds, is not with respect at all.

[Thatkid]

Removed*. Idc anymore. Have fun.

Edited June 15, 2019 by ThatKid

[Eltyyy]

I thought this post was quite funny.So I'd like to play aswell.

 

Everything I will say in this message is 100% true.

 

 

You're the first one to blame staff for the unjustified ban you received back in the day,but you're also the first one to give those.

Didn't you ban two of your close friends,for "boosting" when you yourself knew there was no boosting involved? You're gonna deny that all your want,but all you wanted was to "satisfy other staff members". You knew they never boosted,but because Staff was biased against them,you decided to ban them and proceed to make them waste their time. Let me tell you,you're no better than any of these biased staff members that acted against you.

 

Sugar,former PRO admin,went out of her way multiple times during the official summer tournament of last year so Dakivid could advance without battling.Why? Because TR3Y got banned (completely stupid reason but we'll pass on that one), Rekkuza official host of the tournament decided it was ok to let TR3Y play since the ban was gonna expire before the ending of the round and the round was a quarter final match,which was quite important. Sugar threatened to quit staff multiple times if Dakivid wasn't advanced,Sugar said she would ban anyone who goes against her judgement. You,I,and everyone else involved called this situation bullshit,how come that you coming into staff,made sure that Sugar didn't loose her role? It was enough at that point with her repetitive bias to get rid of it,but all you guys want is to protect your cute circle jerk.

This is not all though,the only way we got this information was because somebody leaked it to us,among the staff members,as I do have some respect for that person I will not reveal who it was,because you and I,Felix,know who it was.I'll ask you again,how come,you,claiming you want to remove any bias staff member,didn't do anything against this person,because even if I have respect for that person,after you leak such informations,you should never remain into staff.Well you thought.That person is an administrator now.

 

You claim you want staff to be as unbiased as possible,but you do nothing against it.You can keep this facade of this "Hey I was banned and it was unjustified so I'm on your guys side",but no.It doesn't really suit you well.

 

Let's also point out on why Senrosia was promoted to moderator :

 

This user showed clear bias against my friend in a discord ban,after the appeal it was decided that the user "was gonna get a better training as a discord mod" What you guys did instead is promote him to moderator because he was in the same guild as Sugar,because he knew Sugar.Let's talk about it.You yourself claimed this situation was bullshit and this person should have never been into staff.I myself talked to GM Logan about it and he replied "The mod team is horrible,people like senrosia have no clue on what they're doing,only thing they care about is the number of ban they make and being online the most" or something like this.Dare to say i'm wrong Minho and I'll put the conversation out,you need to own up to your words now.

 

But yet,these people are still into staff,and you're gonna say they got better and do a good job but we both know this is wrong.The ladder tournament situation is a good example.You let this person in charge and he did an horrible work,was super strict for no reason at all and completely ruined the healthy taunting/fun there was here.Of course there's gonna be people arguing,but this is what makes it fun,it's a tournament,so OF COURSE it's gonna happen.You yourself agree with me,because you told me that.

 

No,this person didn't improve,this person is an horrible staff member and will always be one.

 

Teerav,hosted a tournament and decided to never finish it.Ok that's fine.It happens. That's what anyone could say before knowing he made people pay to enter in the tournament and you guys decided to defend his action.No money was ever given back,the tournament never finished. You decided to defend that.

 

If I,or anyone else that is in your "we're biased to you" list did this,we would have received an harsh punishment.

 

Explain me why Teerav wasn't punished,even if deep down,we all know it's because staff likes Teerav and he isn't included in your list.But i'll still ask you this question because i'm curious of what excuse you'll use this time.

 

Let's continue.

 

One of my friends posted an innocent meme,about his good friend Caspar,in a private PokeOne guild server. The meme was posted for the purpose of entertainment and only for that reason.But sadly my friend did the horrible mistake,unforgivable mistake, of including in his meme the picture of Fadoka,which he had as a profile picture for about a year.That got him banned for two weeks.He was called cruel,toxic and damaging to the community.

An apology was supposed to be sent but the staff forgot to do it.

The reason they forgot to do it was because his name was Akalli and there's only that to it.

You then begged Arkos for an apology to be sent,two months later.The apology was sent,but do you think it solved anything? No,it didn't solve anything.You already gave the message to this player that you would do anything to ban him.You let him know that you guys as a staff team were always gonna be biased against him.And then,you expected him to just follow your rules like a dog? You don't put yourself in any player situation,you say,you're human and mistakes can be made,but when any player make mistake you guys instantly put him in "we're gonna be biased against you forever" list.

 

You act like any player can be forgiven just because you got put into staff,but the reason you were put into staff is because you decided to join the circle jerk.Let me ask you honestly this question,do you think any player like TR3Y could ever get back into staff (prior to the ban they received) just by acting nicely? I'll answer that question for you,no.As I said,if nobody does hundred of hours for the sole purpose of helping staff (You and the Spawns thingy is a good example),nobody will ever forgiven.

 

If you really wanted the staff to be healthy ,you would do whatever to get rid of people like Letrix or Sugar,because we BOTH know how biased they were and still are.At some point,you can keep saying you're allowed to make mistakes,but you can't possibly defend their actions,you can't possibly act like these people are healthy for this game.

 

Let's continue with examples,

 

My friend got PERM BANNED for posting a picture of a staff member in a random guild discord,which was already public.You go against your own rules and you expect to be taken seriously? What's the point of having rules if you guys break them whenever you see the opportunity to ban somebody you don't like? Come the fuck on now. You can't possibly be serious.

 

There's also something I'd like the adress : The Discord Moderation :

 

It's terrible.You know that.I know that.These guys have the power to potentially ban someone from getting the best source of informations but you guys seriously don't take that serious and you let anyone enter it.Anyone,and I say anyone currently in this discord moderation is bad,has no idea how to do anything,and when you're in the wrong,you warn.My friend went into a situation where he asked our lovely moderator Senrosia (When Senrosia was only a discord mod) for an advice.Senrosia proceed to answer with "Only tag me if you want real help" "Should I ban Akalli guys?" "Banned haha" Clearly abusing his powers.Akalli proceed to appeal the situation,Senrosia was judged too biased and needed more training.Well guys,we can say this was fixed.Thank you staff for making the right decision for once.

 

Well you thought so!

 

Senrosia was promoted to full staff 10 days later.What a joke.

Let me tell you Senrosia,you're a terrible staff,and you will always be one and nothing you will do at this point will change that.Sadly you can't hide in Sugar's pants now.

 

YOU SAY DISCORD MODERATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IN GAME MODERATION,BUT IT SHOULD,ITS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PLATFORM AND YOU GUYS JUST LET RANDOM PLAYERS DECIDE IT.

 

Why was Glogs made discord moderator? (had 400 message on the discord at the time)

Why was Neinharth (Senrosia) promoted to discord moderator?

Why was Comrader promoted to discord moderator after prooving 100 times how immature he is and how he is unable to deal with any situation.

Why was waleed1301 promoted to discord moderator? This kid is all day on P1 discord claiming he is a PRO discord moderator trying to flex his statut for no reason.

Why was Victor the Pooch promoted to discord moderator?

 

You let those random players make huge decision for the game.

You are responsible for the discord moderating so stop hiding from it.

Any mistakes made by a discord moderator is none other than PRO Staff's fault because you let these random inexperienced players become discord moderator.I know what i'm talking about.I was promoted to Discord Moderator by Sugar.I had no explanation.It was garbage,I had no idea what to do because nobody explained it to me.It was literally "take it and fend for yourself."

 

Then again you won't admit that,and keep saying they're doing a great job.A lot of folks will believe it though,and i'm not surprised.

 

Let's talk about one last thing and you already know what that is,Felix.

 

We,in our lovely guild,had a chat only for moderator,we pretty much said anything there because we knew it would be safe and nobody would leak anything.One day my friend TREY admitted something in there.He only admitted having it done in this discord,and no where else.When you got into staff,the first thing you did was leak that to your new circle jerk,and now TREY is permanently banned for it. This is why you aren't better than any staff member that acted biased against you. You decided to betray people who support you just so you could fit in the circle jerk; You get no respect.

 

I ain't got time for your bullshit excuses that you didn't do it,because we BOTH know you did.If you wanna proove you didn't do it,release the evidence.You claim you don't want to share it to protect your source,but,the only thing you wanna protect is your image,In the end,that's all you ever cared about.

 

You choose people who hurt and betrayed you over people who were there for you, as I said,you get no respect.

 

What are your fucking motives? What do you really want to achieve? I'll help you.

 

I want :

 

Shamac permanently banned for abusing his power multiple time and being biased against multiple people.

I want the evidence that got the user TR3Y banned revealed,to TR3Y or in public,I don't care,proove you didn't do the unforgivable.

I want 9oomy permanently banned for fucking up the game economy by leaking money to her friends.

I want 9oomy permanently banned for lying about the fact she was blackmailed just so she could get away with it.

I want Arnie permanently banned for backing up the blackmail claims so he could get his staff friend to remain in the circle jerk.

I want Sugar permanently banned for for abusing her power multiple time and being biased against multiple people.

I want Letrix removed from staff for abusing his power multiple time and being biased against multiple people many times.

I want Teerav harshly punished for breaking the trust of the community and scamming people with his tournament.

I want Senrosia removed from staff because this person has prooven many times he wasn't fit/incompetent for the role.

 

You are so predictable that you will most likely move this thread to the complain area and say some bullshit excuse like "blablabla didn't respect forum rules" to hide from your fuck up.

Go ahead and delete/move this thread and proove my point.

If you do it thought it's fine,because the only thing I wanted to accomplish by posting this was you to read it,which I most likely succeed in doing so.

 

Let's see how you handle this one,you two faced snake.What you pulled against TR3Y is the most unbearable thing i've ever seen from a PRO Staff,and let me tell you for once and for all; You became what you ever fought against.

 

Obviously,I'm not Eltyyy so I'd appreciate if you'd let this account alive.

 

- Akalli.

 

Blood on the wall.

Edited June 15, 2019 by eltyyy

[Thatkid]

I don't know who this eltyyy is but said person just confirmed what i had suspected all along. Kudo's dude.

[Teerav]

Teerav,hosted a tournament and decided to never finish it.Ok that's fine.It happens. That's what anyone could say before knowing he made people pay to enter in the tournament and you guys decided to defend his action.No money was ever given back,the tournament never finished. You decided to defend that.

 

If I,or anyone else that is in your "we're biased to you" list did this,we would have received an harsh punishment.

 

Explain me why Teerav wasn't punished,even if deep down,we all know it's because staff likes Teerav and he isn't included in your list.But i'll still ask you this question because i'm curious of what excuse you'll use this time.

The tournament did finish. The tournament was hosted through my personal discord, which you left as soon as you were eliminated. I also offered to pay for your entry fee, but you denied that request.