Make Excavation great again [An In-Depth Excavation Suggestion]

Norex · June 24, 2021

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Hemshire · June 24, 2021

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0rekastanie · June 24, 2021

On 2/26/2021 at 2:53 PM, Norex said:

Spawn Change Suggestions

(Note: These are just examples to give some ideas for spawn changes, feel free to share your thoughts and ideas in the comments)

Credits for some ideas on the spawn changes and source for provided data

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https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/164557-excavation-revamp/
https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/164557-excavation-revamp/?do=findComment&comment=933935
https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/112424-hoenn-excavation-sites-guide/

Feral Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Growlithe -> Rattata-Alolan

Vulpix -> Numel

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Cubone -> Sandile

Torkoal -> Houndour

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Absol

Darumaka -> Fletchling

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Deino -> Grimer-Alolan

Pawniard -> Salandit / Charmander

Historical Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Machop -> Makuhita

Phanpy

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Baltoy -> Diglett Alolan

Heracross

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Croagunk -> Buneary

Scraggy -> Mienfoo

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Hawlucha -> Timburr

Riolu -> Stufful / Meditie

Haunted Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Gastly

Misdreavous -> Drifloon

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Duskull -> Phantump

Shuppet -> Sandygast

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Sableye

Yamask -> Marowak-Alolan

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Rotom

Honedge -> Mimikyu

Mineral Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Bronzor -> Magnemite / Rhyhorn

Onix -> Geodude-Alolan

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Lunatone -> Tirtouga

Solrock -> Archen

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Beldum

Aron

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Drilbur -> Rockruff

Larvitar -> Togedemaru / Mawile

Glacial Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Swinub

Snorunt

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Mantyke -> Vanillite

Shellder -> Cubchoo

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Bergmite -> Sandshrew-Alolan

Sneasel -> Snover

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Corphish -> Vulpix-Alolan

Piplup -> Crabominable / Wishiwashi / Squirtle

Natural Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Tangela

Combee -> Pineco

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Budew -> Scyther

Burmy -> Pinsir

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Karrablast -> Exeggutor-Alolan

Shroomish -> Dhelmise

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Venipede -> Bulbasaur

Ferroseed -> Steenee / Foongus

Wondrous Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Snubbull -> Jigglypuff

Clefairy

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Marill -> Dedenne

Spoink -> Swirlix

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Flabébé -> Togepi / Audino

Sigilyph -> Swablu

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Klefki -> Cutiefly

Porygon -> Comfey / Ralts

Briny Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Buizel -> Wooper

Slowpoke

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Carvanha -> Staryu

Clamperl

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Feebas -> Frillish

Shellos -> Tympole

Requirements: 4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Alomomola -> Mareanie (pls?) / Froakie

Mudkip

Draconic Site

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Requirements: 0 discoveries

Rarity: Common

Horsea

Rhyhorn -> Mareep

Requirements: 1000 discoveries

Rarity: Uncommon

Trapinch

Skrelp

Requirements: 2000 discoveries

Rarity: Rare

Goomy -> Axew

Noibat -> Bagon

Requirements: +4000 discoveries

Rarity: Super Rare

Dratini -> Drampa / Turtonator

Gible -> Jangmo-o

Changes to available items

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Requirements for Fossils: 4000 discoveries

Helix Fossil - Omanyte

Dome Fossil - Kabuto

Old Amber - Aerodactyl

Root Fossil - Lileep

Claw Fossil - Anorith

Skull Fossil - Cranidos

Armor Fossil - Shieldon

Sail Fossil - Amaura

Jaw Fossil - Tyrunt

Revival Herb (1000+ Discoveries only)

Heal Powder -> Random Vitamins

Energy Powder -> Random Vitamins

Feral Site Rare Bone -> Nugget

Historical Site Nugget

Haunted Site Tiny Mushroom -> Nugget

Mineral Site Stardust -> Nugget

Glacial Site Pearl -> Nugget

Natural Site Big Mushroom -> Nugget

Wondrous Site Star Piece -> Nugget

Briny Site Big Pearl -> Nugget

Draconic Site Big Nugget

First of all Fossils fit well into Excavation Sites and can even be synched with an NPC in the Historical Site. Revival Herbs are always useful for rather new players and can still be useful to more advanced players as they can be used on quests, events, leveling pokemon etc. While Heal and Energy Powder may be useful to a certain extend to newer players, they feel like a waste for most of the playerbase after a while. I would suggest to change them to items which are pretty much always needed and useful like Vitamins (Protein, Iron, HP Up etc.) or make Heal and Energy Powder exchangable for Artifact pieces.

Changes to Artifact Pieces Store

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Fossils:
→ Root Fossil (100)

→ Claw Fossil (100)

→ Old Amber (200)

→ Sail Fossil (350) -> (200)

→ Jaw Fossil (350) -> (200)

→ Skull Fossil (500) -> (350)

→ Armor Fossil (500) -> (350)

Omanyte -> (100)

Kabuto -> (100)

Vitamins:

→ Protein (7) -> (6)

→ Calcium (7) -> (6)

→ Carbos (7) -> (6)

→ PP Up (7) -> (6)

→ Iron (7) -> (6)

→ Zinc (7) -> (6)

→ HP Up (7) -> (6)

Consumables:

→ Focus Sash (6)

→ Air balloon (6)

→ Weakness Policy (6)

→ Mental Herb (5)

→ Power Herb (5)

→ White Herb (5)

-> Master Ball (150)

-> Nature Reroll Ticket (1.350)

-> Reroll Ticket (2.250)

Battle Items:

→ Smooth rock (250) -> (10)

→ Heat Rock (250) -> (10)

→ Icy Rock (250) -> (10)

→ Damp Rock (250) -> (10)

→ Eviolite (300) -> (15)

→ Safety Goggles (500) -> (300)

→ Rocky Helmet (500) -> (300)

→ Assault Vest (500) -> (300)

TM Moves:

→ TM28 - Dig (50) -> (15)

→ TM26 - Earthquake (75) -> (20)

→ TM69 - Roost (75) -> (20)

→ TM53 - Psyshock (50) -> (10)

→ TM75 - Swords Dance (100) -> (15)

→ TM48 - Rock Slide (50) -> (10)

TM50 - Substitute -> (30)

Gems:

→ Ice Gem (30) -> (12)

→ Electric Gem (30) -> (12)

→ Fire Gem (30) -> (12)

→ Ground Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Dragon Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Fairy Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Flying Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Ghost Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Rock Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Poison Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Bug Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Fighting Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Normal Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Grass Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Psychic Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Steel Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Dark Gem (10) -> (6)

→ Water Gem (10) -> (6)

Evolution Items:

→ Protector (50)

→ Reaper Cloth (50)

→ Razor Fang (50)

→ Razor Claw (50)

→ Sachet (500) -> (250)

→ Whipped Dream (500) -> (250)

→ UpGrade (500) -> (50)

→ Dubious Disc (500) -> (50)

Damage-reducing Berries:

→ Shuca Berry (10) -> (6)

→ Chople Berry (10) -> (6)

→ Passho Berry (10 )-> (6)

→ Occa Berry (10) -> (6)

→ Yache Berry (10) -> (6)

Stat-modifyng Berries:

Salac Berry -> (6)

Apicot Berry -> (6)

Ganlon Berry -> (6)

Lansat Berry -> (6)

Liechi Berry -> (6)

Micle Berry -> (6)

Petaya Berry -> (6)

Starf Berry -> (6)

Mega Stones:

→ Aggronite (1000) -> (600)

→ Steelixite (1000) -> (600)

Exclusive Cosmetic Items

Shoutout to @dangarangs for the idea and some examples.

https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/155148-excavation-only-cosmetics/
Examples:

Pickaxe back item

Shovel back item

Kabuto Hat

Omanyte Hat

Lileep Hat

Rocky Helmet Hat

Tyrantrum Mount

Bastiodon Mount

Rampardos Mount

A Mine Car Mount

Dino Outfit

Excavation Coat back item

For most of the time my personal experience with the Artifact Pieces shop has been that I would only buy Focus Sashes as these are the most valuable items you can get and they are rather easy to sell. Most other items are not worth their price, are not needed or have other sources you can get them from easily. To give Artifact Pieces a better use I suggest to lower some prices in a balanced way to make it worth buying other items than focus sashes and a few other items.

Balancing prices and available items is not easy by any means but I tried to come up with fair prices based on a calculation. To understand the suggested Artifact Pieces prices and that calculation you need to know some numbers. For a full Excavation Site run we end up with an average of 64 Artifact pieces (I used 60 for cleaner calculations) and a Focus Sash costs 6 Artifact pieces and sells for about 2.000 - 2.500 Pokedollar (I used 2.000 Pokedollar for the calcuation). Buying 10 Focus Sashes for 60 Artifact Pieces and selling them for 2.000 Pokedollar each leads to a daily profit of 20.000 pokedollars.

Example of the calcuation based on a Reroll Ticket:

-> Reroll Ticket (2.250) -> 750.000 / 20.000 = 37.5 -> 37.5 x 60 = 2.250

-> Reroll Ticket (2.250) -> 750.000 (Current average price of a Reroll Ticket) / 20.000 (daily profit from selling Focus Sashes) = 37.5 (days to purchase a Reroll Ticket from another player if selling the Focus Sashes daily) -> 37.5 x 60 (Artifact Pieces gained daily from a full Excavation Sites run) = 2.250 (price of a Reroll Ticket in Artifact Pieces)

The goal is to end up with item prices which are somewhat balanced in a way that makes the items worth buying instead of selling the Focus Sashes and buying the desired items from another source.

Fossils:
I dont know why Omanytes and Kabutos Fossils are not available yet but I would suggest to add them as they are the only missing Fossils. I think the prices for Fossils are too expensive overall but I did not change them too much since I dont know if there is some in-depth balancing behind that and the fact that they are untradable.

Vitamins:

Adjusted the prices so you are able to buy 10 Vitamins after a full Excavation Sites run.

Consumables:

Adding certain items like Reroll Tickets to the Artifact Pieces Shop makes Excavation Sites even more lucrative. However I did not suggest more random items to keep the theme of the Excavation Sites alive for the most part but I think Reroll Tickets can be a very good addition as they serve as a more or less long-term-goal players can work for.

Battle Items:

Adjusted the prices based on the explained calculation. I did not suggest additional items as the already existing ones fit the Excavation Sites them perfectly well.

TM Moves:

Adjusted the prices based on the explained calculation and added the TM for Substitute since it is only available in Trainers Valley so far.

Mega Stones:

Since obtaining 1.000 Artifact Pieces to purchase a megastone takes over 2 weeks of full Excavation Site runs and megastone-quests usually do not take longer than a 1-2 days at most for the majority of the playerbase I would suggest to lower the price a little bit to 600. While I think adding megastones exclusive to Excavation Sites is a good way to make them interesting again it should be considered that some players do not like to do Excavation Sites as well. I think lowering the price from 1.000 to 600 Artifact Pieces would be a good change which could motivate some players to do more Excavation Sites again. Obviously players who already bought the megastones for the original price of 1.000 Artifact Pieces would need to get compensated with the extra Artifact Pieces.