Petition to Unban Greninja from Ranked OU PvP

[Madhavxdark]

6 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said:

greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing

It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch

gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help .

 

also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny

Useing Shadowsneak is prediction mean if the player know if he/she wil use shadowsneak the conk or anyother poke will not do this priority move 

Edited May 2, 2021 by MadhavXDark

[Iammeetdp]

3 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said:

greninja dosent have a true check because of its ability to change its typing

It dosent matter if its fragile if it has shadow sneak to avoid priority moves like e-speed or mach punch

gren can kill before it gets worned down and giving it u-turn dosent really help .

 

also with the meta how fast pokemon are its not that suprising to see scarf greninja kill lopunny

Bro did u even read the post, thats the point! "4 move synodrom" Ninja is ofc OP but cant cover everything at once. When was the last time your entire team was sweeped by a ninja?never for me! It would be the best pokemon in world if it was allowed to use all its movepool in a battle, but it cant. Its limited to 4 like metagross

 

[Shadow2054]

5 minutes ago, NogamEd said:

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WOW what a monster 

I'm just reading here for fun, not to argue, but why in the world would anyone, under normal circumstances, keep a non-scarfed greninja in on lopunny.

[Iammeetdp]

4 minutes ago, Suz said:

+1 

Greninja is has low def, spdef and hp stat. Which makes greninja fragile to so many moves. I saw people giving some undesirable reasons like people can't predict(This some trash reason). PvP is all about predicting the moves. Banning pokemons just spoil the fun.

 

 

Excatly, Thanks for adding the great point!!!

 

[Rj2222]

+1

[Olker]

2 minutes ago, ForgiveMe said:

guys guys guys

how do you get a lopunny infront of a greninja

well because greninja killed the pokemon before

am i right or not 

Or switching in on a predicted shadow sneak (the one you were whining about), or dark pulse.

[Saransh2848]

8 minutes ago, iammeetdp said:

Hey thanks for providing your thoughts,

 

But If I take your theory into consideration, than stall mons like chansey and alomolola should be the first to get banned ( not that I want them banned, just logic) becuase they form almost unbreakable teams and cores with other stall mons. As for the defog pressure, ferrothron does it way better than greninja. It can both stealth rock and spikes and power whip and leech seed the life out of poor rotom. Why isnt it banned ( again dont want it banned, just saying)

The main thing that gren has it that he has no guaranteed switchin,you can switch in clef thinking it's gonna tank a hit to scout for moves and instead get hit by gunk shot. Same for chansey,if the gren turns out to be physical(although rare) then its a 3hko for it.The calc:
252 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 273-322 (38.8 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
At the end,i cant just stress enough the spikes part+unpredictability.
Have a good day

[Saransh2848]

1 minute ago, Shadow2054 said:

I'm just reading here for fun, not to argue, but why in the world would anyone, under normal circumstances, keep a non-scarfed greninja in on lopunny.

true,why would anyone keep gren infront of lop 

[Nogamed]

Ok, let say that the problem is mega lopunny, so what vs ferro? Lets see what happened... 

 

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4th turn 

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[Suz]

1 minute ago, Saransh2848 said:

The main thing that gren has it that he has no guaranteed switchin,you can switch in clef thinking it's gonna tank a hit to scout for moves and instead get hit by gunk shot. Same for chansey,if the gren turns out to be physical(although rare) then its a 3hko for it.The calc:
252 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 273-322 (38.8 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
At the end,i cant just stress enough the spikes part+unpredictability.
Have a good day

Can't your chansey toxic greninja? 

Always chansey has softboiled, toxic, softboiled, t-wave/rocks for sure