That makes no sense still because I am one of the leaders of the top guild and it's full of quality players (id argue the best pvpers on gold) because everyone in the guild can manage 200+ rating and it took over a year for us to form friendships with all the people in the guild to get to this point. Hard work pays off and takes time. it just takes the leader of the guild to have dedication and good leading skills to be able to have people join and work together to get to the top like a guild should. [This is just my opinion I understand what you are trying to say I'm just voicing from my point of view]