17 minutes ago, Aggs said:

HOWEVER, Tapu Lele, in PRO's case, is potential no, unless we decide to shift from our Priority-Focused meta. I honestly think people will quit the game because they will have 3 moves on 4 of their pokemon when Psychic Terrain is on the field.

 

I honestly can't wait for people to not know how terrains work when they come out lol. It's gonna be fun watching people spam prio in psychic terrain or try to spore a mon in electric terrain and wonder why it's not working 👀.

-1 better make this post for chansey who 1vs1s 100x more pokes than some greninja which only evolves after a kill.. finally people use attacks and not just desperatly spam recover for 30 minutes just to get 1 single pvpcoin

13 hours ago, caluroso said:

I just want to say hi :3

 

Jk, +1 ban ash gren for the meantime. we cant handle mega scizor and ash gren on a same team. this isnt showdown, we dont have that much acces to pokes that counter ash gren imo. 

YOU can't

haha ash gren brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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10 hours ago, Eric66 said:

Should I really sum up this topic so far? Stallers cried beacuse they are so incompetent, they cant deal with Greninja. And Ash-Greninja is a stronger version of it. While their Chansey/Alomomola/Ferrothorn can easily deal with it. 

Well, i am a stall user, and ik how to handle it pretty well

Just wanna say that this thread is not to criticise stall users

 

6 hours ago, stavd said:

gren will find it difficult even to evolve against h.o...breloom (mach punch), lucario , drago (e.speed), azumarill that tanks at leat one hit...a set up gyara etc...h.o. teams probably will bother less...on the other hand stall cores will face a lot of pressure, especially if gren teams are designed to utilise hazards...

I know the others have already talked about this but. Literally the only priority that can potentially kill ash gren is breloom's mach punch. Gren is just laughing on all other ones

^ and forgot talking about gren's team support

9 hours ago, Bhimoso said:

Oops, I am late and forgot to post my meme.

 

Broken link sadly 😔😂

I agree with you all, +1 

1 hour ago, SuperHuy13 said:

I know the others have already talked about this but. Literally the only priority that can potentially kill ash gren is breloom's mach punch. Gren is just laughing on all other ones

252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja-Ash: 203-239 (71.2 - 83.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

and 12,5% damage from rocks....

4 SpA Life Orb Lucario Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja-Ash: 172-203 (60.3 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Lucario Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja-Ash: 139-165 (48.7 - 57.8%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja-Ash: 109-129 (38.2 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja-Ash: 351-416 (123.1 - 145.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

This is the damage ash greninja takes from priority moves of h.o. teams...

Edited October 11, 20205 yr by stavd