Tr3y Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Greetings folks, I hope you are having a lovely day. I am making this post in regards to a rather uncommon Pokemon called Rhyperior. This Pokemon is truly one of a kind with insane HP, Attack, and Defensive base stats. (115,140,130). At first glance of Rhyperior's typing (Rock and Ground), the Pokemon may seem underwhelming defensively. But when you run the damage calculations, you will soon realize how broken and uncompetitive Rhyperior can truly be. Now, if we look at Rhyperior's typing from the offensive side of the spectrum, it has the spammable move in Earthquake in tandem with another spammable move in Stone Edge. Pokemon that can switch into Rhyperior's ground attacks (Flying and Grass types) have absolutely no chance at switching in against a choice banded Stone Edge from an Adamant Rhyperior. For example, Pokemon that can take Earthquake switching in against Stone Edge calculations: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 162-192 (48.5 - 57.4%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 430-507 (166 - 195.7%) -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 458-540 (138.3 - 163.1%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 295-348 (91.3 - 107.7%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 1504-1776 (418.9 - 494.7%) and much more... Pokemon that can take Stone Edge Switching in against Earthquake calculations: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 180-213 (46.8 - 55.4%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 199-235 (47.3 - 55.9%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 190-225 (53.9 - 63.9%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Omastar: 470-554 (167.2 - 197.1%) and much more... Taking Advantage Of The Meta This is just the beginning. Its potential is also boosted by the amount of people using Tyranitar or Hippowdon. Under a sandstorm, Rhyperior's special defense gets boosted by 1.5x which allows it to tank super effective special hits rather comfortably: 0 SpA Blissey Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Rhyperior in Sand: 112-132 (25.8 - 30.4%) 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Rhyperior in Sand: 185-218 (42.7 - 50.3%) 0 SpA Alomomola Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rhyperior in Sand: 184-220 (42.3 - 50.6%) 252+ SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rhyperior in Sand: 226-267 (52 - 61.5%) and much more... Immense Physical Bulk Aside from that, Rhyperior's physical bulk is absolutely ridiculous. Talonflame is one of the most used Pokemon in competitive play. There are hardly any answers to this Pokemon but Rhyperior is there for you. It also has more than enough physical bulk to withstand STAB super effective attacks and retaliate back with its respective STAB choice banded attacks: 0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 168-198 (38.7 - 45.6%) (OHKOs Gliscor with Ice Punch after) 252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 338-400 (77.8 - 92.1%) (OHKOs with Ice Punch) 252+ Atk Machamp Dynamic Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 288-338 (66.3 - 77.8%) (OHKOs with Earthquake) 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 281-330 (64.7 - 76%) (OHKOs with Earthquake) 252 Atk Tyranitar Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 214-252 (49.3 - 58%) (OHKOs with Earthquake) and so much more... Variety Of Coverage Moves Rhyperior also have access to a wide variety of coverage moves as well with the more important ones being Megahorn and Ice Punch. With access to these moves, Pokemon such as Slowbro, Tangrowth, Gliscor, Garchomp, etc. can never hope to beat Rhyperior. There truly is nobody that can reliably come in against a Rhyperior. Torterra and Chestnaught are 2 of the most effective Pokemon when it comes to beating the Ground + Rock combination but they both die to Ice Punch. With these coverage moves, Rhyperior puts quite a strain on team building. Solution I strongly believe PRO has the potential to have one of the purest and most rewarding competitive system. But when Pokemon such as Rhyperior are obtainable and useable, it just cannot achieve this. Rhyperior definitely needs to go or needs to be looked at if PRO's PvP aspect is to grow any further. Thank you for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakalli Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 It is sad that we have to this to stop this Pokémon,but this must be done for an healthier PvP Metagame.... Married to Shaymin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobramk Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Suicune is a good counter to Rhyperior. Watch spdef stat, its so ez to counter. CobraMK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr3y Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Suicune is a good counter to Rhyperior. Watch spdef stat, its so ez to counter. CobraMK. 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 186-220 (46 - 54.4%) Suicune isn't obtainable for everyone as well. Isn't efficient to rely on such an exclusive pokemon to stop Rhyperior. Not to mention it can only come in on 2 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretentious Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Nice article. I enjoyed reading it, but it's supa salty. I'm curious to see what other ideas you have aside from banning this Pokémon. Sig created by Annazhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebzerg Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 It has really good stats but its typing weaknesses and speed really hold it back. Also just because it can hit walls really hard doesnt mean it should be banned. Some pokemon are amazing at hitting hard if they can land the right move on the right mon, if they do it with a choice item then they are move locked and you can outpredict them. Also solid rock doesn't even work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandwarden Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Good article. But, Anything with STAB Surf and good special attack are not things Rhyperior will like at all. Starmie is the first thing that comes to mind. Gyarados' Waterfall is pretty mean, but with your monstrous defense and your ability to drop it in one Stone Edge, I have doubts Gyarados would try to take Rhyperior on. http://www.pokemonrevolution.net/forum/index.php?account/signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber54 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Good article with many examples Greetings My personal Shop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xrevolutionx94 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 +1 :Sing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelfie Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Sorry but cant help to laugh. Dont see any reason whatsoever to ban a pokemon that has a ton of counters avalible. Let me just name a few here. Slowking,Alomomola,Venusaur,Blastoise,Bronzong,Flygon,Magneton,Medicham,Hitmonlee,Jellicent etc.. Can understand playing the same old comps are fun and all but when the meta shifts this happens. Check Out My Shop; Click Me I Am Strong Because I've Been Weak. I Am Fearless Because I've Been Afraid. I Am Wise Because I've Been Foolish. IGN: Pelfie - Shiny Wild OT Count: 54 - Guild: Fluffy Nation - Game Time: +2200Hrs - Server: Silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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