Hi mods I have a misunderstanding - Is Curse then Baton Pass allowed in pvp?

It lowers speed but add attack and defense so not sure

Updated main thread regarding recent changes, requests and questions.

September 27th, 2017

- Edited Baton Pass Clause and Evasion Clause phrasing to reduce confusion.

- Added Hidden Power to Bugged Moves/ Abilities/ Items - Not Bannable.

- Removed Unaware from Uncoded Abilities.

- Removed Final Gambit from Bugged Moves/ Abilities/ Items - Bannable.

- Removed Download from Bugged Moves/ Abilities/ Items - Not Bannable.

:y: It's really cool you guys do this. Thanks!

Can a staff member clarify their logic behind not having an item clause? I find it hard to believe that it was purposely left out.

Can a staff member clarify their logic behind not having an item clause? I find it hard to believe that it was purposely left out.

 

what do u mean not having item clause?

Can a staff member clarify their logic behind not having an item clause? I find it hard to believe that it was purposely left out.

 

what do u mean not having item clause?

 

I think he means that we shouldn't be able to use twice the same item in PvP.

If that's the case then,it's totally normal.

Can a staff member clarify their logic behind not having an item clause? I find it hard to believe that it was purposely left out.

 

what do u mean not having item clause?

 

I think he means that we shouldn't be able to use twice the same item in PvP.

If that's the case then,it's totally normal.

 

2 pokemons with same item?

I researched a bit into the "Item Clause" as I haven't heard of it before. From what I gathered, it's just the Species Clause for items. Personally, I don't think this is necessary and I believe the vast majority of the community would agree. The Item Clause seems to be something only seen in the VGC as I cant find any record of it being enforced on other Pokemon PvP simulators. Should such a rule be added, it wouldn't be fixing anything. More than one Pokemon with Leftovers, Choice Items or a Focus Sash, for example, doesn't seem to be an apparent issue in PvP. Feel free to discuss it though. I would like to see what people think.

I don't think it should be banned.I literally see no reason why it should.^^

September 30th, 2017

- Added Rule 8 after this vote.

• 8. An Unaware Clefable with Softboiled and a Poison Heal Gliscor with Defog, respectively, are banned from ranked play. This is due to the introduction of Hidden Abilities in Gen5 and those moves being removed from the respective Pokemon's movepool in Gen5. Video evidence is required.