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It's funny that you are bringing this up as we had this discussion the other with moderation staff. Moderators in particular are trained to moderate, they are not trained to have all the game knowledge like a CC for example. Their main duty when logging into the game with their staff account is to moderate the chats, it is up to them if they want to engage in conversations or not. For me personally I engage when I feel like it or like the subject, have something to say. We are not there to socialize with our staff accounts. Some staffs see this differently but in the end we can't force anyone to have conversations about very banal things just because players want to talk to a staff member. A lot of community members have a ton of knowledge about the game or even new content after it was released, Moderators for example often times do not have the time to play or know everything about it. I can obviously only speak for my team but we all are rather quiet while enforcing the rules, some talk, some talk when they feel like it. I'll bring this subject up again within moderation channels.

Should beggers on the street be jailed or punished for begging? It's something I thought about quite a bit actually ever since you brought it up, its a bit more complicated than just flat out banning it. No player gets banned for "no reason", that assumption is just flat out wrong. Your friend was unbanned because it was proven that he wasn't breaking the rules but it appeared that way (very minor offense and literally everyone gets unbanned from it). They are actually being banned, all of them and if you know someone is cheating then you can simply report them. I can see that you never reported anyone for that. You were banned under an old system that was faulty and has been removed a long time ago however you admitted to cheating but claimed it was someone else. The appeal process goes always into one direction, is the user honest or not. You are responsible for your account, so blaming others will never get you unbanned. Appeal Rules: "Appeals which state that a third party caused the ban will be denied instantly. Third party = Brother, cousin, Godzilla, sentient headset, robotic arm, etc." We do stick by our rules very strictly.

Hello to all competitive PRO PvPers! This year, PRO Staff have decided to launch another Summer PvP Tournament, which is open to everyone who meets the requirements to sign up and wishes to participate. This is our 4th year hosting an annual PvP tournament! Are you ready to face off against the rest of your server to battle for bragging rights, and a unique reward to set you apart from the rest? A. The Tournament will consist of a double-elimination bracket. B. The bracket will be randomly seeded during a live-stream. C. Registration will begin on June 1, 2019, 00:00 GMT, and end on June 13, 2019, 00:00 GMT. D. Each round will last one week. The bracket draw will be streamed on June 14, 2019, and the first round will begin immediately. E. All matches prior to the Semifinals on both brackets will be best of 3. F. Semifinals, Winner's Finals, Losers' Finals, and Grand Finals will be best of 5. G. Should any circumstances necessitate changes to this format, Tournament Staff will give at least a week's notice before the tournament begins. H. Only one account per player may enter the tournament. I. Ghosting is forbidden. Players may seek assistance prior to matches, but may not confer with other players during the game or allow another player to play for them. J. The Pokemon pool of players will not be limited, so there is no need to register teams. A. All Ranked PvP Rules apply. B. In the event that any Ranked PvP Rules are changed while the tournament is in progress, the change takes effect immediately in this tournament as well. C. Should any moves, abilities, Pokemon, or items be coded between the start of the tournament and its end, those moves, abilities, Pokemon, or items may not be used. D. Players are not required to record matches, but it is recommended, as it may be impossible for staff to validate reports if they choose not to. E. Should any Ranked PvP Rule be broken, the offending player will forfeit the game. F. Should either player disconnect, the other player may either claim a game victory or allow a rematch at their discretion. G. Should the server crash during the game, a rematch is to be played with the same teams, unless a player demonstrates to Tournament Staff that they were in a position where they could not reasonably lose the game. A. Should any match fail to be completed, both players must submit evidence of activity to Tournament Staff. If Tournament Staff should decide that either player was not sufficiently active, that player shall be disqualified. If both (or neither) players were sufficiently active, the match will be decided by coin-flip. B. Any reports of participants breaking rules should be accompanied by as much evidence as possible, preferably video. Screenshots will reinforce your case, but may not be considered concrete proof. C. PRO Rules will continue to be enforced with no regard for the tournament. If an infraction would render a player unable to participate in a round, that player forfeits the round. D. Toxicity and despicable behavior will not be tolerated, both during matches as well as before and after. Sustained behavior of this sort may lead to disqualification. E. Match fixing is not tolerated. Players may not attempt to bribe or coerce other players to forfeit or intentionally play poorly. F. By entering the tournament, you agree that Tournament Staff have final say over all tournament-related decisions. A. All Pokemon used have to be Level 100. Fill out the following format and sent it to Qeight (Click here): Title of the Private message: PRO Tournament Registration [spoiler=Example:] You will be invited to our official Summer Tournament Discord through your registration PM. Registration has been closed! Do NOT sent me any PMs! - Pick one of the available and obtainable legendary Pokemon + 3x ~ 4x 31 IVs, 2x 30 IVs at maximum but IVs can be decided as you wish ~ Can be Shiny ~ Can choose Level ~ Can choose Moveset and EVs "Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Latios, Latias, Phione, Heatran, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Genesect, Darkrai, Registeel, Regice, Regirock, Manaphy, Shaymin/Shaymin-Sky" [spoiler=Some illustrative images] - Nature change OR Ability change OR 1x legendary shiny mount (Pick 2) + 2x - Nature change* OR Ability change OR 1x legendary shiny mount (Pick 1) + 1x *If the second place picked Nature change, the third place can not pick it [spoiler=Legendary Mounts Showcase] S Zapdos Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Articuno Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Moltres Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Latias Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Latios Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Raikou Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Entei Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Suicune Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] S Kyogre Mount [spoiler=Different Sideviews] - 1x Fox Mask OR 1x Pancham Hat OR 1x Black Petal Shaymin mount (Pick 1) [spoiler=Item Showcase] Disclaimer: The rewards will be for each server, the Top 15% may differ per server Contributions: Idkup, Fluffles, Shinohara, MagicGuard, Senrosia and Qeight

If you give us the exact dates the screenshots were taken then it can be used as supporting evidence however if you claim all of those were from yesterday and it comes out those were from 2 months ago you will see yourself in trouble. Chat reports should be done within a few days. If a user is repeating the same offense over and over again the punishment will increase obviously. I posted that in another thread: We are trained to collect as much evidence as possible, ask for more evidence when we believe the evidence wasn't the full story (example if the the private message is scrolled down to show just a certain aspect). The context does matter but we often times find ourselves having evidence of rule breaking offenses and those have to be punished regardless of circumstances. Lets make up a scenario, User A insults User B, User B insults back. User A screenshots how User B insults them. User A reports it, we would ask about the context/backstory and for more evidence. User A doesn't provide anything but User B still did break our rules by insulting User A. We have to take actions regardless if and we actually hope for that, User B has taken screenshots of how User A insulted first, User B would in most cases be unbanned and severe sanctions would be issued against the user who provided half the story.

Just to straight jump into this, you are only instantly muted for heavy insults, slurs and such. You can always expect to have a warning in Chat before you get muted. It is staff depending whether or not if they want to warn you directly or warn the chat however it makes not a whole lot of sense to warn everyone for everything. If there is a warning in chat about swearing just two minutes prior and you start to swear, it wouldn't be logical to warn you here. Apprentice are staff in training so they obviously will get something wrong from time to time that's why they are training. It comes with experience to issue quality warnings and fair mutes however the current Apprentice are doing a good job about it. You are not instantly muted for 1-5 minutes, there is a strict procedure in place when you get muted and for how long you get muted. By now its no secret that the first mute is always 60 seconds, the next one 120 seconds, the third one 300 seconds and after that you will be quiet-banned. It is obvious that after the 4 time breaking the rules that you are not getting it so a quiet-ban would be issued. This is actually very rare in my experience (in my almost 10 months now and over 300 hours in-game moderation, I muted maybe 40 times for 300 seconds and not even half of those resulted in quiet-bans). You are never banned for "no reason", a staff member who bans or mutes for "no reason" will be removed rather quickly (hasn't happened in my time as staff yet). There is a different definition for everyone, some think its okay to discuss murdering people with axes in a kids game, some think its okay to talk about sexual things in chat in a kids game but our stance on that is very clear that we do not allow such subjects. I don't know the specifics of what you are talking about but in a nutshell we avoid sensitive subjects as much as possible. Complaints in general are dealt with in the Complaint Area just for the sole purpose of explaining everything in detail, in about 90% of those cases the users' end up realizing that they were wrong or just didn't properly understand why they were muted or why certain rules were enforced the way they were.

Hey there everyone, the recent announcement was made by our GM Team, a team that functions as higher moderation who more often than not handle very severe infractions. The announcement had nothing to do with the ways they operate or anything, just simply with how they are enforcing the Punishment Policy. As Letrix wrote in his post ever since GMs and Devs cracked down on bots lesser cheat offenses became a rising problem. Our old Punishment Policy didn't reflect appropriate punishments for those offenses anymore therefore the change. If any of your guild members were banned by a GM you can be very certain they did something otherwise they wouldn't be banned. I said that in another of these suggestions posts about how we operate, simply we can not give away evidence as it would show how we operate (in GM cases at least), in other cases we can not give the evidence to protect the reporters. We will never involve the community in any of the appeal processes nor would we ever give evidence out publicly. Even within the staff team we don't have access to everything, Content Staff have no access to moderation whatsoever, CCs/Mods/Tmods have the same clearance while GMs ways of operation and evidence keeping is hidden from everyone else except Admins and Devs & then of course the highest level in the staff structure Admins/Devs. We simply will not make anything public or involve people who don't have to be informed of anything. From a personal experience as player and as staff, a lot of people just straight up lie to cover themselves. As sad as this sounds a lot of players lie in their appeals and to their guilds etc. If you want to be a good guild leader, lead them to being honest with themselves and being honest in their appeals. That's all we care about really, honesty. If you are banned then in most cases you did something wrong (investigations bans do happen from time to time). Kind regards, Q8

That's why I made the thread in the first place, if we were to do a player driven PvP council then everything had to be clear. I couldn't come up with a good solution on how to appoint the council members or how to select them in the first place. That's why I wanted to give the opportunity for others to voice their opinion. I totally agree you on the fact that we have to appoint the best, not friends or people we know. If we want this to work then we have to work together to find a good solution. As for rules and such, I already have a rough idea what council member rules were and that would include not abusing infomation from the council discussions (selling prior to decision making). What makes this harder than a PvP Council on smogon/showdown is the fact that this game isn't solely PvP, we have to take into consideration everything including the economy and the market. I brought up this example yesterday, changing Snivy to a Tier1 spawn would have a good impact on the metagame but realistically it goes the MMO aspect of the game.

That's why its a brainstorming thread and not alright dismiss stuff. If you had read through the other thread that you were so adamant in being open then you would have realized that this concern was brought up by someone. The second part of your comment was deleted, please don't repeat such thing. :)

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The big disclaimer at the start of everything: This thread is not a confirmation of a PvP Council nor will there be an ETA if one comes. Thread is about brainstorming the idea and execution. A PvP Council has been one of the most suggested things by top level players within this game for months and years now however it was never done. I would like to give everyone the opportunity to brainstorm the idea, how a player driven PvP Council could look like, how things are decided etc. The big questions that should be answered here: How are council members picked? How long can they stay on the council? What are the requirements? Should they be able to participate in ranked PvP while being on the council? How would the split between Silver and Gold members look like? [*]How are suspect tests decided? How does the council decide what Pokemon to sent into a suspect testing phase? How would a suspect test look like (a special suspect ladder is out of question)? Who gets to vote after the suspect test is over? What are the requirements to vote? [*]What would council members need from staff in particular to make it successful? How much influence does staff have over the council? When can staffs interfere in the decision making process? Unlike this thread: PvP Council, this should be about the execution of a council. Any off-topic comments, insults, drama inciting, taunting or any negative posts will be deleted. This thread is also not about writing "+1" or that you like the idea, it is solely for brainstorming how things could be executed. Don't ruin this chance for yourselves, show us if a player driven PvP council is even realistic within this community. Best Regards, Qeight If this in the end doesn't happen, please don't be upset!

Your first sentence, are you not seeing that? Toxicity will lead to sanctions, it is counterproductive and if you actually cared about what you are saying you wouldn't act the way you are acting. You wouldn't attack the only staff member who is trying to come forward a bit, be open about the possibility of a PvP council and be open about changes, bans and such. What you guys are doing is quite honestly one of the reasons why staff never did a PvP council, toxic community members who will not accept a decision because they are not agreeing to it. With that said, think about your actions and future comments on that matter. Locked.

I'll respond properly besides your toxicity within this post. Your first sentence makes absolutely no sense as literally about 2 weeks we banned Shaymin (Land) due to its bugged moveset. We do indeed ban stuff, before the Shaymin ban we banned Memento+Focus Sash. The assumption that we have 0 experts is simply wrong, sadly you do not know everyone within staff. I am obviously not an expert in those matters that's why I seek the help from others, way more experienced players but I also have the pov of someone who is not an expert yet played a lot. A ban has to be justified and above I explained why a ban isn't needed at the moment, is it justified? If you think that every bugged thing should be banned then yes. "meta is stagnent for years, only rain + ferro + togekiss + manaphy + conks around." Years? I think the word you are looking for is months. Back in the day sand teams dominated, then it was Talonflame, Goth, Dugtrio, Blissey etc. I explained that in the other post about a Manaphy ban, the meta shifts on its own when stuff gets coded. As the PvP update is currently being worked on a ban now makes sadly not a whole lot of sense and what comes after the PvP updates? This has to be decided but I hear and read everything that gets discussed. We hear the strong suggestions about more PvP related subjects, banning/votes/PvP council etc but at the moment those things wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.

We discussed this as well, while indeed this shouldn't be a thing, it is a very niche scenario therefore we will also not ban this. There is no need for a long explanation, its simply a very niche one and we don't feel like it has that big of an impact. It's not that broken either. It will be fixed with the upcoming PvP update as well. Kind regards, Q8

After discussing it for a few days we decided to not ban Manaphy, to not ban Damp Rock and to not ban rain. I'll give you guys a short explanation of stuff said during our discussion. "If you ban one metagame, another will just become stronger and take it's place" Having played PRO for years myself, this is a fairly accurate statement. The metagame shifts with PRO, new items/moves/abilities get coded, new spawns are added, spawns are changed, mechanic updates etc. If any of the above gets banned then something else will simply take its place. "So I see no reason to ban something that is competitive and not overpowered" This is indeed a strong point in our discussion, are Manaphy/Damp Rock/Rain teams overpowered or are they simply just strong competitively? The answers is the later, they are strong but not broken to an extend where there is no counter play. "It is strong, not broken but facing it countless times every month/pvp session is just a joke." We believe that obviously it does cause frustration but so does Chansey, Blissey, Clefable, (old Talonflame) and and and, we can't ban something just because it is annoying to play against. The same reason why would not ban stall or stall Pokemon. It is fairly common to call for bans because the Pokemon in itself is frustrating to deal with but if your team is prepared you can beat it, same goes for rain teams. You have to adapt to the metagame to succeed. Last strong point we have is that the PvP update is right around the corner and banning something now would make simply make no sense. However once every PvP related update is released we want to be more open to these types of discussions but more to that another time. Kind regards, Q8

Hello Ta7esh, both Shaymin forms are currently banned, Shaymin Sky because its UBER and Shaymin Land because it is bugged. It can obtain illegal moves like every TM, Flamethrower/Icebeam etc. We will unban it the second it is fixed. Kind regards, Q8

We considered that but it is simply not practical for us given certain circumstances I can not reveal. :/ We will unban it the second it is fixed.