Qeight

https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/148777-url/?do=findComment&comment=820774 Need to hammer this into people, NO there are not A LOT of people abusing this. This is just flat out wrong. "For that reason, a lot of people are abusing baton pass." This statement is 100% inaccurate and is not supported by anything at all.

This is a bug and will be fixed, it was a flaw when explaining how BP clause works.

I'll just give me quick thoughts on this subject (I wasn't part of the discussion in staff as I wasn't in staff when this happened). First and foremost this decision was not reached by "my" PvP Council as the PvP Council never made it out of development given I quit staff for a few months & it was my project. The decision was reached by all sorts of staff members in our staff discord in a channel called "PvP Council" however that name is a little misleading, the skills from our staff range from top tier players to bottom-feeders like me. I am a numbers kind of guy when it comes to bans, meta changes and such things given my knowledge about PvP is restricted to when I laddered early on, on the Yellow Server. I would like to think that the skill cap back then was much higher, given my rating placements back then (520/521) would in todays time be #1. In that time things like Talonflame dominated the ladder, it was basically a free win, the meta played so different than what it is now. Taking skill out of the equation entirely going forward. Cames provides us with the most used Pokemon data for every season: https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/142666-url Some numbers: The most used Baton-Passer for Speed (Scolipede) has not reach the threshold of 5-7% on any Server in the last 6 months. It never appeared in Top25. Manaphy appeared 3 times in the Top25 usage statistic in the last 6 months. 18. Manaphy 2971 9% 52% - #Silver November 2019 24. Manaphy 2220 6% 56% - #Silver December 2019 25. Manaphy 3038 6% 53% - #Silver March 2020 [*]Togekiss appeared appeared 12 times in the Top25 usage statistic in the last 6 months. This is no surprise, I reached ladder with Togekiss in 2016. Lovely Pokemon everyone loves it. 9. Togekiss 3966 16% 52% - #Gold November 2019 11. Togekiss 4613 14% 48% - #Silver November 2019 10. Togekiss 3756 15% 51% - #Gold December 2019 10. Togekiss 4158 12% 49% - #Silver December 2019 9. Togekiss 4381 17% 53% - #Gold January 2020 12. Togekiss 4504 12% 48% - #Silver January 2020 9. Togekiss 3575 16% 54% - #Gold February 2020 9. Togekiss 4832 14% 49% - #Silver February 2020 9. Togekiss 5230 18% 52% - #Gold March 2020 10. Togekiss 6175 13% 49% - #Silver March 2020 11. Togekiss 4854 14% 50% - #Gold April 2020 14. Togekiss 6168 12% 49% - #Silver April 2020 [*]PVP Season Results, April 2020 [*]Silver Server Out of the Top25, 3 people played with a Speedboost Scolipede. The first one played it once and won. Manaphy was in the team. Had Baton Pass. The second one played with it twice and won twice. Had Togekiss both times. Had Baton Pass. The third one played with it seven times and won six & lost one. 3/7 were with Baton Pass on Scoli, he won two, lost one. Togekiss was on all 3 Baton Pass teams. [*]Two people popped up a few times that played Scoli with Baton Pass, both have not reached Top50 in rating. [*]Gold Server Out of the Top25, 6 people played with a Speedboost Scolipede. There are 4 people who used it as a main team for most of the season, they had a mix of Togekiss and Manaphys. There is one guy who used it 3 times and won 3 times, he used a Togekiss in the team once. There is one guy who used it once and lost, there was a Togekiss in the team. There is one guy who used it once without Baton Pass, had a Togekiss in the team. So my conclusion just based on numbers is really simple, it shouldn't be banned at all. The people who used it as a main team are also players who are naturally good at PvP, several Top25 finished, Tournament finishes etc. It didn't matter that they had H.A Scoli with Baton Pass. I hear people saying there is a bug with Speedbost when you swap into it from a Pokemon with U-Turn/Volt-Switch that you get the Speed for free, on the same argument you can say that any Pokemon with Intimidate cripples Scoli since it can't pass speed and another stat. PRO is not Showdown/Smogon, we should never treat it that way. I have disregarded most of these complaints when I was still Moderator Lead because exactly this reason. It is banned here and there, who cares. PRO is somewhere stuck between coded stuff from Gen5, Pokemon from Gen6, mechanics from Gen7. We don't have so much important stuff for actual competitive PvP and you all want to ban something that is barely used, sometimes used by god tier players who are already good and can ladder without it? I had the PvP Council in mind because I wanted to give players what they wanted but most people don't even know what they want or PvP, people who backhanded complain in Admins DMs or on PRO Discord are the ones who haven't played the game in months. It saddens me that those people even have a voice, they shouldn't. They don't play but ask for bans when majority of the people don't play it. It is a shame. Anyway, the numbers above from the PvP logs might be a little off because of logging issues from time to time but nothing major. It should still be fairly accurate. Best wishes, Q8

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This vote isn't even there to decide whether or not it gets reverted, its there to give Eaty an overview of how the community thinks about the subject. No need for a timer.

We know about double votes, no need to point that out, staffs are not stupid. :D

Next user who comments off-topic things or starts pointless drama gets a forum ban.

The development time can rather be spent on something like a blacklist for Pokemon/Abilities instead of bringing back a mindless Pokemon from a time where everyone just run it, it will just force everyone to carry a Pokemon that can deal with Talonflame once again. I voted for I don't care as in the end, the PvP community has to play with this but there are better suggestions and things Devs should look into when trying a more refreshing meta. A blacklist would achieve such a thing by trying to dissect obvious problems (win% to pick% of Pokemon) and such things.

Please do not spread lies, Kyurem is unbanned. I updated the rules to reflect that. Locked.

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Greetings everyone! I would like to thank everyone for giving PRO a competitive environment for another season. I would also like to congratulate each player and guild who made it to the top of the ladder, on behalf of the whole staff team. We all wish you the best in the next season. Thanks for participating! REWARDS Normally, 1st Place will receive 700 PvP coins, 2nd place 695, and so on. Top ladder guilds shall receive 25% EXP Boost for the entirety of the next season! Top 25 players from each server are eligible to enter the ladder tournament and win epic Pokemon and other cool rewards! Top 25 players from each server have access to Tutor Heaven! RANKED LADDER RESULTS Top 25 Silver Ranked Rating (No Tier Ladder) [spoiler=SILVER LADDER] #Rank Name Guild Rating Wins Losses Win% 1. Gabriel10HDZ Adamantium 501 95 21 81 2. GDarch Predators 479 134 24 84 3. Smooge NoMercy 476 71 10 87 4. 0danobunaga Heart Pirate 451 97 30 76 5. PVPKING1 FenixReborn 448 132 45 74 6. JugHead Ragnarok 446 116 51 69 7. Mihawk95 FenixReborn 438 126 60 67 8. Juanhey NewOrder 437 214 75 74 9. Xatu Predators 435 124 36 77 10. konan66 Chaos 435 66 16 80 11. iCacherazo FenixReborn 433 97 27 78 12. Destro16 NewOrder 433 53 11 82 13. Belzebel NoMercy 431 199 105 65 14. Epirus Venom 428 110 38 74 15. pankajrawat callusdaddy 425 262 96 73 16. AshKing110199 callusdaddy 424 116 45 72 17. 88infinity88 NewOrder 424 96 36 72 18. Hen1 Chaos 423 92 31 74 19. malltesers Chaos 421 154 63 70 20. iammeetdp callusdaddy 421 100 34 74 21. autobots Predators 421 76 23 76 22. Samad1786 callusdaddy 420 127 63 66 23. Astro NewOrder 420 74 22 77 24. khurshid Venom 417 165 63 72 25. Bestpvpplayer Adamantium 415 59 15 79 [*]Top 25 Gold Ranked Rating (No Tier Ladder) [spoiler=GOLD LADDER] #Rank Name Guild Rating Wins Losses Win% 1. Deidaraa Ascension 506 220 66 76 2. Nakofum Ascension 480 118 28 80 3. Combux Skere 455 90 21 81 4. Johann14 Illusion 441 79 17 82 5. Riotatzu Illusion 434 50 11 81 6. BossGuzz PowerRanger 433 153 54 73 7. EvilProtagonist Tranquility 432 116 52 69 8. malltesers FrenchConnexion 432 56 10 84 9. iCacherazo AlwaysReturN 430 64 20 76 10. IamAL0ne AlwaysReturN 429 60 21 74 11. xmonts AlwaysReturN 429 73 25 74 12. Joguar AlwaysReturN 427 146 47 75 13. Renan2k Illusion 426 122 35 77 14. idkup TeamMagma 426 48 12 80 15. ZetLocrito95 AlwaysReturN 425 54 14 79 16. masterZOE AlwaysReturN 425 48 13 78 17. editigre AlwaysReturN 425 48 6 88 18. Tw1nG AlwaysReturN 425 79 28 73 19. Fylans ChaosRaiders 424 70 20 77 20. bangsb AlwaysReturN 424 123 38 76 21. SentryPErcy AlwaysReturN 423 258 119 68 22. khurshid Tranquility 423 100 30 76 23. Trailblazer Ascension 419 65 20 76 24. Revanx TeamMagma 418 88 36 70 25. howl123 Brazilian Storm 413 146 84 63 RANKED GUILD LADDER RESULTS Silver Guild Rankings [spoiler=SILVER GUILD LADDER] #Rank Guild Leader Rating 1. Predators Irruushi 11076 2. FenixReborn Baltoo 10991 3. callusdaddy Axel02 6479 4. NewOrder Astro 5067 5. Chaos Imhanjoo 4146 6. NoMercy Teerav 3985 7. BloodNight Luminetor 3817 8. Venom Epirus 3425 9. Apocalypse Dask54321 3214 10. Ragnarok Tutonazo 3033 [*]Gold Guild Rankings [spoiler=GOLD GUILD LADDER] #Rank Guild Leader Rating 1. AlwaysReturN Tw1ng 9080 2. Ascension Aggs 7826 3. Illusion Johann14 5304 4. Tranquility Harjawaldar 5126 5. Indonesia Pieman 4688 6. ChaosRaiders Mrkarpkarp 3871 7. Skere Ayuwoki 3423 8. TeamMagma Iriztha 3380 9. FrenchConnexion Robiox63 3156 10. PowerRanger Yellovv 2679 Disclaimers Results may have a marginal difference to ones recorded by other players. The results taken were taken seconds before the ladder was reset, whilst the servers were offline. If you used a Discord bot, or gathered your own screenshots earlier than us, your results may be inaccurate. If you are or aren't on the ladder when you think you should/n't be, please contact Qeight via PMs. Please note that users with the exact same rating may switched positions during the reward process, we have no influence over that. If the results are slightly incorrect, the correct users would have still been rewarded. This is due to the server automatically rewarding the top 25. Special thanks again to everyone that participated this season and those who bring a healthy competitive environment!

We are very clear with our plans for the game however there are big misconceptions about the duties of each team. The new region has quite a few members of the content side of things while the Devs are not involved in it at all. Fixing Lending-Trades and Server issues was a big priority while everything else was put on the downlow, current Dev priority as far as I understood is the new Dashboard (which has features I am very excited for), then PvP-update should be very high up on the list, which sadly was delayed and delayed because other issues that took priority. Mind we have 2 Devs working on things while we have a two dozens Content staff working on quite a few projects. Stuff takes time but people are always working on it.

Majority of the stories circulating around about why, how and why PokeOne was created/why Shane left PRO are false or total lies. Just getting this straightened out to begin with. The code was a buggy mess, however Eaty and Cames worked on it like a lot and its much easier to add, change and fix things now. The QoL changes Eaty has achieved in his time as Dev by far surpass Shane's, if I am completely honest and this comes from a players as well as from a staff perspective. Eaty coded as much in a night than Shane in a year for this game when Eaty got access. PRO was never a lost-cause, it just needed some love and it needed a bit of work. Eaty, Cames and the Content team already take inspiration from various different sources to achieve the best experience possible however a lot of what PokeOne has to offer are either not suitable for what we are trying to achieve with the game or are simply just bad ideas. This has been a thing for idk a year? So this is already a thing for quite a bit. It hasn't, background work is being done. PRO has a two-man Dev team with different kinds of goals and objectives, fixing server stuff was on the top priority the recent months, then the new Dashboard which is pretty far already. They can only work on so many things, many things are background things players not really see. However Content wise it hasn't slowed down, it actually has been in the best place since PROs release, the content team is in the strongest point in PROs lifetime circle. Games don't just improve in a few days, it takes time, time from people who go to school, have jobs, families, kids and do this as a passion project nothing further.

Just so you guys have some input from the Moderator team, the minute we get guild history logs (which we currently don't have), we will make buying members for rating a banable offense, just like boosting but for the suggestion, you have my support on it as well, I would very much agree with it.

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Hello Erickmichellpkn, did you catch the Pokemon yourself? As far as I can tell all OT Larvitars are in your box, except 2, both of which you sold 3 days ago. Do you happen to have an ID? Kind regards, Q8

No.

The council will by default consist out of at least 1 Moderator and 1 Trade Moderator, to exactly avoid these things. The people I have in mind are closely integrated in the community and we have tools to check for almost everything. All in all, if this occurs even if I hope it doesn't, those council members are subject to removal and may receive in-game bans as well. We will not tolerate any form of abuse or leaks, not even the smallest ones. I am very strict with policies and rules, so you can bet on that ^^

Hey there PvP players, it's finally time to announce the beginning of an official PvP Council. What is a PvP Council? Source: Click here Why does PRO need a PvP Council? How and where will the PvP Council operate? Why the PvP council now? What if the PvP Council abuses their power? The MMO side-effects from a PvP Council How can I be a part of the PvP council? ---------------------------------------- This post is a first information post of whats to come, as I mostly work on this project alone, it may take some more time to iron out all logistics and how we want this council to fully operate. If you have questions, concerns, suggestions or feedback, feel free to comment it down below. I am happy to answer all questions. Have a wonderful day! Best regards, Q8

Welcome :)

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Just a wild guess, could be 3 people with the same rating in queue but I would guess you were just unlucky at that moment. I don't understand what you are suggesting really :/

3 people are in queue You with 400 rating, player A with 100 rating and player B with 220 rating. The game will queue player A against player B because the rating difference is only 120 while your difference would be 180-300 rating. I am all for changing how rating is done in ranked however this isn't even remotely up to me sadly.

Instead of making sarcastic snarky comments like you usually do, what about some healthy criticism and a suggestion to solve this problem. I am all ears. :D

The queue system is not the problem here, it's the active playerbase in PvP or the time you are trying to PvP. The system searches for someone within 15-17 rating range for a brief period of time, it expands the search more and more till you find someone suitable. If nobody except the 1 Rating guy is in queue, it will take a bit but you eventually will be queued up against them. There is nothing wrong with the queue itself, rather the players playing PvP which is a whole other issue.