Ban Kyurem white and black

[Prayforstefan]

wrong place sory

Edited June 9, 2022 by PrayforStefan

[Kboww]

-1 ban torn before banning kb

Edited June 9, 2022 by Kboww

[GoldenP1kachu]

A huge -1.
The reason for Kyure-White being banned is by far justified and that is the reason it is banned.

Kyurem-Black on the other hand is just another strong Wallbreaker that has many checks. Could actually make a list of pokes that is way more OP in this META than Kyurem-Black.

[Nornornor444]

Sure, Kyurem Black has "insane stats" with 170 atk, but it doesn't have good enough 4 physical moves to use the 170 atk. It does not have any good physical ice stab moves, the best moves are Outrage, Iron Head, Fusion Bolt, Dragon claw which in most cases, is not enough to cut it out. That means that it still needs to run mixed sets which is easier to deal with offensively. It's also ice type, and 25% to rocks and ice is bad defensively which is not helping it's case. 95 speed is fast, but it's not faster than most threats. I think, even if Kyurem Black had Icicle Crash, we'd be discussing a probable ban but right now it's a big no.

Kyurem Black is just overhyped and I don't think it will be long until people will realize how underperform Kyurem Black will be doing in PRO soon. 

 

Edited June 9, 2022 by Nornornor444

[Cyanirl]

@TheNikifreak

[Limit]

 

I commented from the beginning that I agreed with what they said, and they have been talking about the same thing for 5 hours.

[Lsll]

There's no point in banning kyurem-Black. Right now it seems overly threatening to the metagame due to its versatility and the unfamiliarity of its use to the majority of the playerbase. Pro's metagame is similar to ORAS/Gen 6 with a few Gen 7 additions. There are plenty of checks and counters such as: Keldeo+Mega scizor, M Metagross+Keldeo, faster threats like mega lopunny, M medi, and latios and is constantly worn down by rocks. Although can argue that Magnezone+M scizor+Byu can threaten both m metagross and M scizor offensive cores with keldeo. Regardless, You're probably concerned by how Kyurem black threathens the popular defensive cores in the metagame such as: Amoongus Heatran and landorus, But the same argument can be made for the prominent wallbreakers that are currently being used such as Mega medicham, mega metagross. Ferrothorn, lando/chomp, zapdos core can handle both banded and LO sets without focus blast which will rarely be seen as they would either lose out on roost or substitute if they are using leftovers. As well as its unnecessity with the core of magne+Black Kyurem. An impish Mega Scizor with a 248 hp 16 def 244 spdef can effectively wall both sets of kyurem; which is why I believe there will be a rise in usage of ferrothorn in defensive cores and Mega scizors in offensive cores. People should be expected to adapt to the changes in the metagame as it will continuously evolve as the development progresses. Not to mention that Z moves are not in the game yet which would without a doubt, make Kyurem Black problematic. I'd honestly suggest releasing tapus and pex along with Z moves.

Edited June 9, 2022 by Styg1aN

[Sanidhya]

-1 

Kyurem-B is very weak from steel types

Metagross and other steel types can easily kill it , just need to have good skills to kill it 

It's a really good wall breaker which was somewhat needed in pro

That should be unban before metagross gets a ban ever 

Edited June 11, 2022 by Sanidhya

[Whitorabbit]

Kyurem-black has a limited movepool. Thats why kyurem white is banned and kyurem black is not. Kyurem black is missing a ice physical move. In gen 8 tho kyurem black got banned fron ou and was raised to ubers because kyurem black was able to learn a ice physical move which destroyed ou. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Whitorabbit

[Tatakaebaka]

Is protean greninja banned??  Tf