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ING: ikonos123 Current rating: 489 Season you were on ladder: september 2018 Some things that need to be said before: - the way the opening post is presented is factious - some players kept breaking the rule - votes need to be explained in order to be considered Vote: KEEP THE RULE Reasons: - alt accounts are used to boost guild in ladder - alt accounts are used farm pvp coins - alt accounts are used to snipe higher rating players in order to help main accounts on ladder - alt accounts are used to trade pvp wins with other players As you can see alt accounts can be easely abused ruining pvp experience for both new and veteran players, they only benefit bad players over good ones While some of these methods are easy to trace(such as double account in ladder or massive guild boosting) some other are harder to notice (such as sniping) but it s meaningless to say the rule it s hard to apply, it needs to be there. Those who love this game vote to keep it, those doing their own interest ask to change it.

IGN:Darkb0y Current rating: +200 Season you were on ladder: I do not remeber the date Vote: Remove the rule Reason: I think we should provide a way to test a team without dropping hundreds of points because it happened to me and it sucks a lot. Also, it is pvp, and competitive players should be able to play with the accounts that they want, also because I see many people do so. It also brings a lot more fun in the game for competitive battlers because there will be a different way to compete, since finding "newbies" in the queue is boring for me and many other people. You can play more, since when you are in the top 25, people barely play and it is easy to achieve being up there in few days, but later I get bored because I can not play because I get frustrated. The main point it is that it will get more fun to play the game, and it will be less stressful to test teams without worrying to much about the rating. 1.Higher probability of new or inexperienced players matching against veterans. What Teerav says, I do not agree with this becasue I think if they find more veterans then they will learn faster, they will learn the metagame and they can experince what is PvP 2.Guild rankings would be completely skewed by guilds with multiple alt accounts -- this stems into way more problems like guilds refusing new players because they want more alternative accounts in their guild to have higher guild ranking, making it harder for new players to join veteran guilds. Other than guild rankings, there is literally nothing competitive about guilds in PRO. Introducing this rule would completely destroy its legitimacy in every way. I also do not agree, and if you are a completely new player also I doubt that they will be added without any knowledge of pvp, also some guilds have restrictions for pvp to join and it will not change anything, if you are good you will probably will enter, if not train harder to reach your goals. 3.Higher probability of win-trading abuse. Kind of agree, but if they do so it is easy to see, and they are doing it at their own risk. Same as bots or other exploits and there will always be. 4.Terrible feeling for players who miss ladder because a few players make ladder with multiple accounts. Sure, a player should be rewarded if they make multiple accounts in ladder but simply alienates others. It says, that the rule would add only 1 account in ladder, so also disagree with the the fact that you say it will bring down competivity, I say it will rise it a lot and it will be more fun. Thanks, nothing against Teerav I respect his opinion :)

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IGN: Onkar Current rating: 30ish, though I left the game... But waiting for Halloween event and so doing some PvPs Season you were on ladder: I don't really remember the month and lazy to search, but I was on top 25 2 times in Yellow server (now gold) Vote: NOTA (None of the above / Both :Kappa:) Reason: Guilds like Tranquility (in Gold) and FenixReborn (in silver) are some guilds which can do anything to be on #1 and so will 100% abuse this rule change and this will kinda makes game sux... Agreed with @teerav 's points. Okay now for yes, It was really boring using just one account when I used to play... Like if you are on ladder and want to stay, you stop doing PvP to keep you safe and got nothing to do in-game for fun other than Bosses... Cuz hunting is / was and will be boring forever... Phew... Well do whatever, I am okay with both lul.

IGN: Y0da Current rating: 423 Season you were on ladder: Last season Vote: remove the rule Reason: The alternative rule ruined the fun in this game and is the reason that many people quit the game for.

IGN: nicotine Current rating: 467 Season you were on ladder: don't remember exact seasons. But I have made ladder twice. Vote: Remove the Rule Reason: PvP is becoming more competitive, we do have the option to build new teams without harm the rating from our main account.

IGN: Draculhao Current Ranting: +300 Season you were on ladder: Last Season Vote: Remove the rule Reason: Only should be allowed 2 accounts in PvP, because: testing teams, to not destroy the ranting in main account when you reach your limit.

IGN:fantazi0 Current rating: Season you were on ladder: more than 10 times on ladder Vote: Remove the rule Reason: Is a good idea for testing team without losing rating, this can be very useful for new pvp players and people who want to make the effort of playing in multiple accounts.

IGN: Hennenen Current Rating: 383 Season you were on ladder: n/a Vote: remove the rule Reason: You just can't have fun with a weird ass team without getting destroyed by meta poke but if you can play on a second account atleast have some fun without destroying your main account

IGN: Gunners Current rating: 504. Season you were on ladder: on ladder since 2016. Vote: Remove the rule. Reason: removing this rule will ,at a first side, increase competitivity in PRO for a better pvp environnement. It will give the players a chance to test more teams and by that giving more variety for the PRO metagame, wich is really poor and full of same teams. This rule exists only in PRO comparing to the others pokemon games like showdown and it only lower the level of the players.However Im agaisnt having more then 1 alternative account on ladder.

Vote : Remove the rule. I have stopped playing PRO for a while but this an topic that I really want to say my opinion about this. I have been an active pvp player since 2016,2017. Always on top ladder, even with multiple accounts. But during the time when I come back to PRO in 2018, I don't playing PvP that much anymore, rarely or even a month without PvP. I still loving PvP a lots, always try to build a team, try to find a cool pvp pokemon... but I just don't have enough brave to bring it on ranked. It's seem weird for somebody but that thing actually happened to me. It's so stressful on a ranked where almost everyone know each others And I don't want to battle with someone who know exactly I am. A win is a win but in pokemon skillful is not a thing that 100% bring you to the victory. You will need a lots of testing, some battles experience and a bit of luck. I always asking how far can my pokemon team go on the ladder and that's why always use my alt for testing purpose. When you are high enough, you don't want to get risk to find the answer because you can't use 1 same team repeat and repeat to beat a same guy. "I'm at 400 rate but I just lose to a guy, my team can't beat him. What should I change on my team". What will you do in that situation, trying new team and get risk of your rating? I am not a person who can play hundreds of battle to get in the ladder. I never have more than 100 wins on each season to get in the 25 or even top 5 because I know my team will work after lots of testing on alt. Moreover, PvP on alt actually is where I really enjoy the laddering. I don't have to care about my rating, about losing to some dumb*ss or making a stupid mistake like ppl usual do. Everything have 2 sides, but I think ppl just overthinking too much about removing the rule. Like almost every ranked system in online game, there are no rules against laddering with multiple account. It's like a real challenge tbh. Even if I'm at high rating then I matching with someone's alt at 1 rating and I'm about to lose to him. Why do I have to complain about that, It's a fair gameplay, I lost because I deserve that and ofc it's not because of using new account for laddering. The only thing that you can complain is the matching system. And if he actually that good then he will not staying at 1 rating for sure. About boosting Guild's PVP rating. The answer is too obviously. New rule: none of you pvp accounts are in the same guild in the end of season no matter what rating you are...

IGN: navneeth Current rating: 1 //not playing any pvp lately since there's no competition just some noobs spamming all day. Season you were on ladder: 4 times top 10 on ladder Vote: Remove the Rule Reason: Bring back the old PvP environment ty.

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Hi there ! I would like to inform you that PRO STAFF is already aware of this issue. However, there is no ETA for when it will be fixed. For now, please use the downloads links that you can find > HERE ON THE OFFICIAL PRO WIKI <. I'm sorry for the inconvenience and hope it will be able to help you. Have a great day !

Hey v2mr06, you are not allowed to sell your account for real money. As stated in our rules you have read and accepted: I will lock this topic now as the question has been answered. Regards Xylos

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IGN: ngoductri Current rating: 1 Season you were on ladder: June,May .... ( some month I didn't ) Vote: keep the rule Reason: I think it must allow to have 1 account per ip on ladder

Hi there ! I would like to inform you that PRO STAFF is already aware of this issue. However, there is no ETA for when it will be fixed. For now, please use the downloads links that you can find > HERE ON THE OFFICIAL PRO WIKI <. I'm sorry for the inconvenience and hope it will be able to help you. Have a great day !

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Ign= EliteArigus Current rating = 440 Season U were on ladder =:Peppo Cry: Vote= Remove this Rule Reason= If Cant really test new Pokemons in pvp Fearing We will loose our ratings We need to wait for next season to start to check pokemons sacrificing our win rate So if we could use alt for pvp we can check teams and see how effectively it works and it might increase competition as well thats all may be but it will be wise to remove this rule.

Hey @Valac, As[uSER=1837673] Heiwajima[/uSER] said, it's currently impossible to refight Registeel with Nikola if you caught Regirock or Regice. I'm sorry, we will solve this issue as soon as possible. I've removed your cooldown on Nikola, but you have to wait for Registeel or choose something else. Thank you for reporting this bug. I hope you had a great weekend!

Hi there. Sorry for the inconvenience. We're currently having technical difficulties with the downloads page as of now. We are aware of this issue and it has been forwarded to the relevant parties. Unfortunately, there is no estimated time as to when this will be fixed. Nevertheless, please use the download links here for now. As this is a known issues and I've provided a temporary solution, I'll now be locking this thread. Good luck and have a nice day.

IGN: Carthos Current rating: 1 Season you were on ladder: August 2016 Vote: Remove/Change the rule. Reason: Ranked pvp should not be only about competition but also the pleasure of play. Alt accounts helps players at try new pokes, synergies, playstyles whitout pressure of lose rating on main. From the middle of the season for many players try out different stuffs become frustrating. Not being able to do it it's a big limit for the game and player improvements. For what I see the need in rermoving alt accounts have been about the influence they have in the guild ladder. In my opinion the direction the game should take about this issue is to study a solution to remove the influence alt accounts have in guild ladder. A solution could be let players register officially an alt account of which points will not be calculated also in guild ladder. Make unnonfficial alts prohibited. There could be many other solutions but we really shouldnt limit the game.

Hey CobraMK, the reason why the Halloween event has not started yet is simple: It is not fully finished yet. I know I announced nothing new with that but thats it. Indeed, we don't want to run a incomplete event and therefore it will only be released when it really is finished. Why we don't give any information? Well, we said there will be a event but not more. The reason for that is, we can't really tell you how much more time it needs. We don't want to tease you with 'No ETA' messages but any other information regarding the progress of the event would be absolutely inaccurate and most probably a lie. Thats why ' No ETA'. Many people of the staff team are working on the event but keep in mind that this is a voluntary job and staff member also have a real life with the same problems everyone has. Means, sometimes there is much stuff done in a short time, sometimes not. Anyway, just because the event is late compared to the last year, it does not mean it has a shorter duration or will be canceled. So as small conclusion: The event is still not finished yet and we cant really tell you when it is but it will come. Please stay patient in meanwhile and stay tuned. :) With this statement, I will lock this topic now. When the event is out, we will let you know by an announcement in our Announcement section and in our PRO Discord server. Kind regards Xylos

IGN: Mcschitter Current rating: 211 Season you were on ladder: *pepe hands* Vote: change the rule Reason: stagnant meta at the moment especially for the top guild consideration. If you work harder there is no reason you should not be rewarded for it since everyone has an equal opportunity to do this.

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IGN: dakivid Current rating: 200ish Season you were on ladder: a lot, too lazy to find them Vote: Keep the rule. Reason: Removing this rule does not contribute ANYTHING to the current PvP environment. The "Unranked Battle Queue" was introduced because of the fact that you cannot test teams in PvP anymore that easily. But then again, how many players use said unranked queue? Right. Maybe 1% of the community, if even. This feature is simply not needed by ANYONE. People just test teams while ranking up, adjust their teams during said process, and are not interested in the unranked queue. There are very little things that may influence the current PvP meta, which is the addition of new Pokemon, that actually can do something in the game (which is really hard because every Gen6 Pokemon was released, outside of a few Legendary Pokemon).

IGN: Adam Current rating: 300 on a ALT (PaKoNu) Vote: Remove this rule. Reason: Gunners & MamaGod

IGN: Camilovic Rating: +300 Seasons on ladder: A couple of times including last season. Vote: keep the rule Reason: People would abuse this rule to boost their guild points not only by creating new accounts, but playing with accounts of inactive friends. The real solution for me is to add something that induce people to play unranked (pve coins or something). Or at least dont let people to have more than one account per guild.

IGN: Joguar Current rating: 450+ Season you were on ladder: Last seasson top 16 Vote: Keep the rule Reason: People with high qualifications in the top, will use alternative accounts to put them in the top too, they will take away the chance for a new person who aspires to reach the top.

IGN: Zinsmiter Current Rating: 1 Season you were on ladder: The very first ranked season in PRO and more. Example: November 2016 according to the Reborn bot among others. Vote: Remove the rule Reason: The rule restricts the ability to team test and have fun while also being competitive. Showdown is a great example of people playing like this. Many people wanna mess around on one account and take the game more seriously on another. It's not even a discussion whether this is the case or not. I've gone into detail with this more in the past so i shouldn't really have to write it all up again.

Hello folks! I'm Haneroze, currently the main PRO Wiki editor. When I started editing, there was only Kanto that was "complete" (yet still outdated), and the areas of all other regions were all in placeholder phase or even just plain missing. I'm happy as of now to announce that the wiki is now up-to-date for all of the main regions! However, having worked all alone, there's bound to be errors here and there. A feature I missed, an incorrect spawn info, etc. Normally in wikis, reporting those in Talk pages is easy, but PRO's wiki account creation isn't automatic and requires approval. So I'm opening this thread to allow you to communicate easily with me. As of now, the focus was mainly on areas, so pages for Pokemons, bosses, moves, etc. are not up-to-date. Furthermore, there are still a few Area features that are not updated, notably: -World map and Area maps (Sinnoh however has a custom World Map made before it was added to the in-game map) -Pokemon Sprites (for bosses and gym leaders) -Headbutt spawns -Honey Trees -October 28th 2018 update: All side islands (except Sevii Islands due to its impending rehaul) have been completed. I've also started updating and creating Move pages, and right now, about 10% of all moves are done. Finally, Wiki editors that have recently joined me have also worked on pages related to Legendary Pokemons. You can use this thread to report incorrect or missing information on area pages, to give suggestions on how the information could be better presented, or simply to talk about the wiki in general!

Thought I'd mention this for others who have similar concerns.

Hi there and sorry for your inconvenience. It's due to the merge re-ordering your pokémon randomly, they were supposed to be locked in your PC as you're doing Sinnoh's storyline, hence why you couldn't move them. We have moved them to your last slots of your PC Storage; enjoy, and have a nice day :) - Locked -

IGN: Belzebel Current rating: 449 Season you were on ladder: All of them Vote: Keep the rule. Reason: I could create 10 accounts and get 400 rating in all of them to always keep my guild in top 1. That would be boring, unfair and nonsense for me and others. Also, people could use that to snipe other people in the ladder. It is creepy but some people note down the time you play pvp and bring a team just to counter you. If the alt accounts are allowed for pvp, they will do that all the time, specially to someone who posts videos on youtube using only sun teams, which is easy to counter with a heatran and 5 other ground types. Maybe if you include some kinda of reward for unranked pvp they will use it more to test teams. Oh, and one last thing... if people wanna test teams and don't wanna play unranked, test them in ranked. Being scared of risking rating is what we all do anyway. If you can't guarantee yourself in the ladder you more than deserve to lose rating anyway.

IGN: Mamathieu Current rating: 200 Vote: Remoove Reason: Zins..

IGN : StarkRey Current rating : No idea. Season you were on ladder : Last month and multiple times before. Vote : Remove the rule. Reason : As most of the old players might see, PvP and ladder is getting less and less competitive since a few months, level is decreasing and people randomly spamming hundreds of games manage to get on ladder somehow nowadays, which absolutely wasn't happening before. Old PvP environnment was simply more competitive with more players playing on alt accounts. That could also bring some diversity to the meta, with good players testing different teams rather that the copypasted ones we can face from the same players that we face 3 times in a row since there isn't anyone on ranked queue. Just bring back the good and old pvp environement rather than keeping the trash one we have today, ty.

IGN: GlogS Current rating: 533 Seasons you were on ladder: At least the last two seasons and some more than that. Vote: Keep the rule. Reason: It's not going to do anything for the PVP envoirement, at all. The only difference is whether you're being gatekept by an alt account with 1 rating or their main account. I could get high rating early season and use the remainder of the season attempting to keep other players away from that rating. You can easily test teams on your main account... it's not like you'd be going around playing teams that don't have a chance of winning if you believe this rule should be removed anyways... or well, I'm not sure how anyone else teambuilds. That's not to mention what would happen to the guild rankings, I'll go with what teerav said.

IGN: Yakuzah Current rating:307 Season you were on ladder: 2 times mo th ago. Vote:Keep the rule. Reason: if you remove this rule the game becomes more autosufficient, you no need anybody to test, you can make your guild take ladder easier (some players with alts could make 800/1000 points with only 2 accs), etc. I think we need search the way to make people play unranked battles, maybe adding pvp coins reward too or adding scores for unranked battle (not points only Win/loses).

IGN: Fabion Current rating: 469 Season you were on ladder: I ve been more than 10 times on ladder, the last time was 3-4 months ago can't really remember. Vote: HELL NO! Keep the rule as it is. Reason: If you want to test teams ask your friends or guildmates to do a friendly match, being able to pvp in more than one accs would destroy the fairness in the Ladder. Many will play in 2 or more accs to feed their main acc (which happened a lot before the rule I personally know people who did this and never got punished) , others will use low rating accounts just to make their enemies in ladder drop and others will abuse it to raise their guilds rating.

IGN: Astro Current rating: 287 Season you were on ladder: September 2018. Vote: Don't remove it. Reason: This can be abused by a lot of people and user. The staff can complete the idea to make everyone happy and not only remove the rule.

IGN: Ultron Current rating: 205 Season you were on ladder: Dont remember Vote: Remove the rule Reason: Is a good idea for testing team without losing rating, this can be very useful for new pvp players and people who want to make the effort of playing in multiple accounts.

IGN: Leonidas92 Current rating: 212 Season you were on ladder: None Vote: Remove the rule Reason: I started playing pvp pretty late, so like a lot of things were needed to catch up. Back when I was able to pvp on 2 accounts, one main, one for testing team, I improved pretty fast ( like in 2 months , I went from 200+ rating guy to 400+ rating guy ). And it's true that the unranked pvp has been dead for the last 3 , 4 months

IGN: teerav Current rating: 309 Season you were on ladder: -/- Vote: Keep the rule. Reason: Higher probability of new or inexperienced players matching against veterans. Guild rankings would be completely skewed by guilds with multiple alt accounts -- this stems into way more problems like guilds refusing new players because they want more alternative accounts in their guild to have higher guild ranking, making it harder for new players to join veteran guilds. Other than guild rankings, there is literally nothing competitive about guilds in PRO. Introducing this rule would completely destroy its legitimacy in every way. Higher probability of win-trading abuse. Terrible feeling for players who miss ladder because a few players make ladder with multiple accounts. Sure, a player should be rewarded if they make multiple accounts in ladder but simply alienates others. This will eventually decrease competition in the long run. How can you talk about guild trophies in your opening line then add on "you don't really get anything for a higher position" later on in your statement? Like saying "hey I care about this issue" then next paragraph you say, "actually I dont care." EDIT: Anyone voting to remove the rule with the reasoning, "I want to test teams but am too scared" or "I dont want to lose rating on my main account by testing teams" has competitive anxiety. <https://www.sports-training-adviser.com/competitiveanxiety.html> Its a real thing and *lots* of people have it. However, just because lots of people have competitive anxiety is not an excuse to ruin the competitive integrity of an MMO. PRO is so different from Showdown, League, etc. I agree we need a way to test teams without constant need to beg friends or guildmates to battle, but removing the rule to solve that is a lazy solution. The better solution is to enforce pvp rules in unranked so it becomes a viable practice tool for competitive players. Reward people for using the unranked queue in some way to bring some life into it, like 2k pokedollars, which is probably the amount of gold you would gain leveling in cerulean cave for 5 minutes.

Ill start

What you described is perfectly fine. Thanks for checking. :)