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Hey, first of all, thanks for clicking on this thread. Please note: I'm not banned and never used any sort of hacks, so this thread is not about me. Last few months a lot of people get banned for using an unauthorized software, having too many alt accounts etc. All of these charges were made by a anti-hack bot. Sadly, this bot/system doesn't work properly, because people that get banned are often innocent and get banned for nothing. Why would someone who played hundreds or even thousands of hours a game risk his progress only to use a weird software to hack? Of course there are a few people that probably did use a hacking software, but most of them didn't. Friends of mine got banned while they had +/- 1000 hours playing time and spent almost $100... All of this because of a anti-hack system which isn't working properly. There is an option to create an appeal on the forums, but when the banned people try to explain that they aren't banned the staff won't listen and trust the system more than the banned people. The banned people try to proof themselves that they're innocent, but sadly nobody believes them... My suggestion is: get a new anti-hack system and let the appeals be there to let the banned people proof their innocent (also recheck all the current banned people). Otherwise PRO might lose a lot of players. I won't close/delete this thread. If you don't see this thread anymore, it means a staff-member removed it.

Fast and Efficient Boss Run Route Good day and welcome to the Fast and Efficient Boss Run Route! This guide will give you a Fast and Efficient route to do Boss Run! Additionally, this is tailored for non transit pass holders to maximize time and reduce spending on travel. Disclaimer: This is not a boss guide but i will give suggestion as to what i use. Required Pokemons ➺ Your Boss Team ➺ Pikachu ➺ 1 x Fire type ➺ 1 x Ghost type ➺ 2 x Steel type ➺ Iron Defense Note: Boss requirements may change over time. Suggested Team This suggested team will satisfy all the requirements previously mentioned with additional purposes. Reserves Klefki ➺ Steel + Switcheroo || Empoleon ➺ Steel + Stealth Rock + Feather Dance + Iron Defense || Ampharos ➺ Eerie Impulse Gengar ➺ Ghost + Destiny Bond || Gyarados ➺ Sweeper || Haxorus ➺ Sweeper Pikachu ➺ Everyone loves Pikachu || Delphox ➺ Fire type + Skill Swap + Switcheroo Kanto Route [spoiler=Start: Cinnabar Island ➺ End: Vermilion City] ➺ Cinnabar Island Professor Oak ➺ Cinnabar Island Lab Room 2 ➺ Mt Silver Terminator ➺ Mt Silver Moltres Chamber ➺ Viridian Forest Erika ➺ Viridian Maze ➺ Pewter City Officer Shamac ➺ Pewter Jail George ➺ Pewter Jail ➺ Cerulean City Naero ➺ Cerulean Cave B1F ➺ Route 25 Entei Guardian ➺ Route 25 Cave ➺ Saffron City Chuck ➺ Saffron Gold's Gym Koichi ➺ Saffron Dojo Nikola ➺ Unknown Place ➺ Lavender City Urahara ➺ Pokemon Tower 3F ➺ Celadon City Jessie & James ➺ Celadon City ➺ Vermilion City The Pumpkin King ➺ Vermilion City Graveyard Xylos ➺ Vermilion Pokemon Club Brock ➺ Diglett's Cave ➺ Vermilion Docks Officer Jenny ➺ Pinkan Lighthouse 2F Klohver ➺ Pinkan Island Meadow Prehax ➺ Munchlax Resort Shary & Shaui ➺ Love Island House 1 Jhoto Route [spoiler=Start: Olivine City ➺ End: Ilex Forest] ➺ Olivine Docks Suspicious Bot ➺ Dock Island House 1 Battle Bot ➺ Dock Island House 2 Bugsy ➺ Amazon Forest ➺ Route 41 Misty ➺ Route 41 Thor ➺ Whirl Island B4F ➺ Route 42 Bruno ➺ Mt. Mortar Lower Cave ➺ Lake of Rage Suicune Guardian ➺ Secluded Lake ➺ Ice Path Lorelei ➺ Ice Path B2F ➺ Blackthorn City Lance ➺ Dragons Shrine ➺ Violet City Sage ➺ Sprout Tower 3F ➺ Ruins of Alph Proffesor Elm ➺ Research Center ➺ Goldenrod City Pewdie & Diepy ➺ Goldenrod Gaming Corner ➺ Ilex Forest Neroli ➺ Ilex Forest Hoenn Route [spoiler=Start: Lilycove City ➺ End: Valley of Steel] ➺ Eumi Island Tigerous ➺ Eumi Island Theme Park 2 ➺ Route 122 Morty ➺ Mt Pyre 4F ➺ Slateport City / Route 108 Toothless ➺ Abandoned Ship B1F Room 1 ➺ Route 110 Raikou Guardian ➺ Secret Base Alpha Lt Surge ➺ New Mauville ➺ Verdanturf Town Professor Brich ➺ Verdanturf Town House 2 ➺ Route 111 Naruto Fanboy ➺ Desert Ruins ➺ Route 112 Gingery Jones ➺ Feral Site ➺ Lavaridge Town Steven ➺ Valley Of Steel Sinnoh Route [spoiler=Start: Canalave City ➺ End: Cave of Justice] ➺ Survival Area / Route 227 Saphirr ➺ Route 227 ➺ Jubilife City Professor Rowan ➺ Jubilife City School ➺ Sandgem Town Spectify ➺ Sandgem Town House ➺ Twinleaf Town Link ➺ Twinleaf Town ➺ Route 203 Medusa & Eldir ➺ Legends Cave ➺ Valley Windworks Letrix ➺ Valley Windworks ➺ Floraroma Meadow Maribela ➺ Floraroma Meadow ➺ Mt Coronet Ash Westbrook ➺ Ash Westbrook ➺ Route 210 North Logan ➺ Cave Of Justice [spoiler=Total Spending] Trainers Valley ➺ 10k Pinkan Island ➺ 5k Love Island ➺ 5k Kanto - Jhoto ➺ 5k Jhoto - Hoenn ➺ 5k Lilycove City - Slateport City ➺ 2.5k Valley of Steel ➺ 5k Lavaridge Town - Lilycove City ➺ 2.5k Hoenn - Sinnoh ➺ 5k Canalave City - Survival Area ➺ 2.5k Survival Area - Jubilife City ➺ 2.5k ------------------------------------------------------- Total Spending = $50,000

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PINK STORE __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hello guys, i'm digomenezes from Rockets Guild! And we're living up to the name of the guild, we're stealing all pink pokes from pikan island! And we're doing some nice prices for you, lover of all kind of pokemons or collectors! For now we only have those pokes, but in this same week we sold a Elekid, Plusle, Minum, rhyhorn and a weeks ago a Tropius Pink! So everytime we catch a pink we're going to update here! To tell more about how our shop works, we do the price about the Tier of the pokemon, the hour we can catch them and how they are wanted for our community. You all are free to ask anything and try to negociate, but to say it already, it is going to be very hard to change the price, because we want to do a standard price. You can pm me or Capiau03 and Vibration in the gold server anytime we're up! [spoiler=50k] [spoiler=70k]on the hunt [spoiler=100k] [spoiler=200k]on the hunt [spoiler=300k]on the hunt [spoiler=500k]on the hunt [spoiler=S.O 800k]on the hunt [spoiler=S.O 1m]on the hunt [spoiler=S.O 2m]on the hunt [spoiler=S.O 2.5m]on the hunt [spoiler=S.O 3m]on the hunt [spoiler=SOLD]Those were sold before we creat our shopp, so we don't have the SS from the deal, but elekid was 1.8m, Tropius 1.2m, Plusle 500k https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/151429-url Some rules here, prices until 500k will be set as a standard price, all that is 800k+(including 800k) will be make an auction in other thread that will be post here to update you guys! We're going to put it here (with a spoiler 800k or the price of the pokemon) with the link from the thread! The thread will be take 2 days from the moment of the first bid, more information on the same thread of the pokemon in auction. Regards, Rockets! last update: 06/12 17:23 gmt-3 brazil time)

First of all, I will start off by saying that the recent ban wave of many macro users is a very welcome movement. Nevertheless, I'm most concerned about the fact that the GMs are currently still unable to show the evidences to the banned user. In an ideal world, evidence should be provided while ensuring that showing them won't enable potential breaching of the system. I understand that it is not possible to do so atm. I still do hope that Eaty and other staffs would be able to figure out an alternative solution for this. Because currently, it does make me and other players feel unsafe to go for an intensive hunt, afraid of getting banned incorrectly by the new system, and get no chance to appeal properly because no evidence would be shown. I have friends who got banned and admitted they used macro. I also have friend who got banned and swore with his life that he did not macro. It really makes me feel sad to think he might really did not macro and a mistake happened. An evidence being shown would return peace of mind to all parties here. Most specifically, I hope the anti-cheat system does not include something so simple like a staff pms a player, he's afk and do not respond, or don't want to respond, thereby largely influence the probability of him getting identified as a macro user. Many hunters enjoy multi-tasking, so not getting disturbed by random pm is a right they should have. Not answering a pm might cause suspicion, but should not be a deterministic factor in this case. I hope you will be able to shed some lights for us with this, about whether there would be plan to fix the "can't show evidence" issue, and whether the system uses some primitive methods like the "not answering pm" example i just showed to determine a macro user. Thank you in advance. :)

Hey there, I am Qeight, one of the newer Game Masters, before that I was the Moderator Team Lead. I asked for this thread to be moved into public viewing again as I believe there is value in having our viewpoints stated publicly as well. The post is a bit of a mix so I'll dissect the points 1 by 1. All bans, are manual bans. Automated bans haven't been taking place for quite a long time now ( around 2+ years). You are hitting on two completely different subjects as well. Unauthorized software is something like botting software, speedhacks, any kind of third party software while having "too many accounts" are simple mistakes that get unbanned in 99/100 cases, the 1 case being someone who yells and insults staff for their ban (even though they haven't read the rules). Good question, we don't know. I banned people with 6000 hours and 6 hours for doing the same thing, unfortunately your hours, status, money donated and what not don't matter when banning someone. We have to treat all players equally and fairly, based on the punishment policy. Friends often lie, it's the internet, nobody wants to be seen as a cheater. If you can put your hands in a fire for a friend, you will get burned if they swear they didn't cheat. The appeal center is there for honest players, unless you are banned for investigation purposes you are guilty. It's not "innocent until proven guilty", we banned you because we proved that you were guilty through methods we never gonna disclose. We are not disclosing them for obvious reasons. It really depends on the ban itself, all are done manually to ensure there isn't anything wrong with the bans. If you are banned for macro- usage or any 3rd party programs you are guilty by default otherwise you wouldn't have been banned. Mass-account bans are often due to people sharing accounts, it is indeed very hard to distinguish who is who sometimes, if you have 30 accounts use the same device. Mass account bans are 99/100 cases successful and people get unbanned. Here is my take on this, PRO had an automated system during the time Shane was still a Dev. The system flagged you for simply lagging out, creating bans that weren't accurate. There were a few auto bans like "Auto Ban: S2" was one of the more faulty ones while "Auto Ban: Third Party Software" was 100% accurate. This system was removed a very long time ago and replaced with something way more secure made by Eaty. What exactly gets detected, how detection works is only need-to-know basis within staff as well. At first nobody was getting banned and then people got banned in waves, this of course raised questions about how detection works even within staff. I was by far the loudest voice against it because the story was always the same "I didn't do anything", "I didn't cheat" & so on. I was only a Moderator at the time, not a Game Master who deals with this kind of stuff but I had my doubts and I made my doubts be heard loudly. However overtime bans slowed down, people were still getting banned for it, the bans were made more severe over time to a permanent ban for users' who cheat. Eaty is very confident in his anti-cheat and we have to trust that. It would be not logical to think that Eaty wants people to be banned for no reason or faulty bans. It goes against everything Eaty is trying with this game. I came to that realization after I left staff for 3 months. I would correct that, we banned more than 10 users, some of those were detected months ago but weren't banned due to shortage of GMs. This is on us but we are catching up, hence you might see increased numbers of bans. I think you are confusing something, yes anti-cheats can not detect all cheats, that's a fault on the anti-cheat but saying our system is faulty because "people are innocent get banned"? Our system detects known cheat programs to us. The chances that you are detected and innocent equal 0. It stays open till people starts insulting staff or yell at each other.

Once you finish kanto story, and go to johto, all your kanto pokemons will get locked and you'll start johto story with a new starter, low level pokemons. However, once you beat all johto gyms, you will be able to access your kanto pokemons for beating elite 4 or other quests. Also, once you finish johto story, you will be able to use johto pokemons in kanto too. The same goes for hoenn and sinnoh. In short, for beating 8 gyms of each region, u cant use pokemons from other regions.

Hello everyone! After search a bit about all bosses, compare their teams, trying to find counters etc.. i ended up making this team that can defeat any boss in the game. Might take a bit getting all this pokes but 100% worth to do it. HOW TO USE IT If the first pokemon used by the boss is a physical attacker you should put Gyarados, Intimidate will cute his attack, now you keep switching between Slowbro and Gyarados until you cut all enemy pokemon attack. After that you are going to put Umbreon and spam Flash. Now you can use Snorlax and stack amnesia and curse, if snorlax dies you repeat the process and stack clefable or Slowbro depending on the boss team. If the first pokemon is a Special Attacker use Umbreon and spam Flash, then use Snorlax/Clefable/Slowbro to stack! Chansey will be your cover when needed. Click here -> https://pokepast.es/0f667c474a81e8ef Enjoy and if possible Like/Bump the post!

Hey everyone, Greetings Callusdaddy is recruiting members. so you must be thinking what is profit in our guild ? so lemme tell you profit our guild is PvP focused guild it doesn't means we don't recruit hunters and daycares players we do accept them but one condition they must do atleast 100 ratings at the end of the season. Our guild have a very friendly and helpful staff to help members [spoiler=Profit of hunters]so we want to achieve top 3 in guild ladder so it means you can get guild island a new spawn of bunch of pokes which you can hunt freely [spoiler=Profit of daycare service providers]so if we want to go in top 3 so it means you will get 25% bonus exp which help you to level up pokes easy and can get pokes from your guildmates for daycare too [spoiler=Bonus]we provide loans of money to members and everyone help each others and we provide free boss team lending and provide pokes for pvp We host guild events hunting events and giveaways tooo so feel free to join us Give following information to join guild 1. In game name 2. Post a screen shot of your trainer card 3. Why you want join our guild? 4. Your discord tag 5. How much ratings you can do each season? our discord server - https://discord.gg/eB2py92

WTS Some Epic PvP pokes !! We are doing the auction on all 3! 48 hours after start bids have been made Offers can be made here, in-game & in discord! GoldenP1kachu#1874 Sold 1.5m to Karthik007 Acceptable payments! 100 Rare Candy - 500k (Max 200 Rare Candies) 200 Focus Sash - 500k (Max 400 Focus Sashes) Coin Capsules - 400k each IV Reroll - 650k Nature reroll - 300k Pokedollars!! Enjoy the Auction and gl Love Regards , GP!

Don't worry, if there is a loophole or anything. I will most likely find it, I am usually the staff who goes against other staffs which doesn't make me very popular. As of now, detection methods are very good. I could guess but I know who you are talking about, I invite everyone to file complaints. If you can't trust a GM or an Admin, or 2 Admins. Then sadly there isn't much we can do for you. At that point people will simply say the staff team is corrupt but it goes against what most want for this game. We want an active game with many different players but without cheaters. Unfortunately there will be more in the future, its a fight that will never end.

Thanks for your fast reply mate. My regards.

We had a case where 3 cousins lived together who all had 4 different accounts. It's fine, mass account bans happen but they get unbanned as I said 99/100 cases. It's not a very serious offense however still is under GMs due to the fact that mass account more often than not is related to cheating or real money trades.

See above, it's not a question of innocence or guiltiness. If you consistently deny having used something, you are lying. If you can't admit to using something, you will never be able to accurately answer other questions. In fact if you scream insults at us, swear and consistently deny cheating then there isn't much we can do for you. Detection bans, it's impossible to show evidence and for videos we make as GMs. Those procedures our fool-proof, with 100% certainty. You wouldn't be banned if you were actually there playing yourself. The system isn't anything new, it's been in place for +1 year and GM methods even much longer. As for your friends/your clanmates getting banned now. It is simply backlog we have to work through due to shortage of GMs at times. It is pretty save to say that people will lie to you. I would love to have players who only play cleanly, it's something we strive for however its never gonna happen. I am open to any questions as long as I can answer them.

Why haven't I eaten a ban for 4-5 years? Because I'm not cheating. I don't have a second account. I farm for hours as much as I can. So far I couldn't even find 1 form or shiny rare poke. But some friends find those Pokemon somehow. You know, of course, that I don't mean every one. I hope this becomes even more ban number or banning those who have a second account using cheat. If you are really clean, you don't smell any.

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Start c.o 600k Insta: 2.5m 24 hours after starting the auction Good night!

900k for chansey

Oh, our system aren't detecting random things. e.g Valorants anti-cheat detected and blocked known CPU/GPU softwares from working. Our system is detection known stuff to use in this game. I won't pretend to fully understand how it works, only the Dev would know.

I wasn't referring to your anti-cheat , I am talkin about the thousands of games that have repeatedly banned innocent people and then publicly apologized . I was just trying to prove the guy saying that anti cheats are absolute wrong , not to undermine your anti-cheat or developers

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That seems a little too far imo . EVERY major game company , has messed up with the anti-cheat system , big ban waves that ban innocent people as well , claiming that the Anti-cheat system is flawless is far from truth . No anti cheat system can detect every hack , and not everything that gets detected is a hack . As far as the appeal system goes , that's not only for people banned for the use of third party software . With that being said I agree with the OP

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Thanks for all your infos I will work with that. Im happy to see that's your client is fixed enjoy now in PRO! WhiteBaron

@ImissPokemon Please be careful next time as that counts as a fake offering infraction. Regards, Haruyukio.

Good luck to your shop, baby.

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S. O & insta of toge??

As Euripides said, all caught pokemon's ID is 0 until the database updates and saves its info. You can make it save your pokemon by logging out just after you caught it.

The ID is 0 when you catch it, it's normal. It gets it normal ID after a few minutes or you can relog or use /save in the chat

nice shop. good luck.

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You report is usefull and will help me. Did you disconnected while you was in battle ? Or only after a battle? Do you remember which pokemon was in your team and also if some of them was dead ? If one was dead, it was in first or another position in your team ? You said that after playing on mobile the bug was gone, it's still the case for your PC client ? The reformat of your PC shouldn't have something to do with the bug. WhiteBaron

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@ImRig You made a mess of this auction. Before making an auction make sure to read the rules. I suggest you read the Auction rules here: https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/119709-url The proper actions will be taken to prevent this from happening again. Have a nice day, Sincerly Hawluchaa.

winner is Aaegis because @ImissPokemon playing silver server

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This is a well-written post, and certainly the most eloquent argument in favor of a ban on Baton Pass yet - that it will become a problem in the future, and thus, we should act preemptively to deal with it before it becomes an issue. However, I disagree on a fundamental level about the properties of uncompetitive strategies and at what point they should be deemed banworthy. We discussed this on Discord yesterday, but I feel the conversation is worth carrying on here. I posited that the current metagame, despite all the complaints, is in fact healthy because a large variety of playstyles are viable. You responded that balance is weak, which is true, and a polarized metagame with a lot of hyper offense and stall is not healthy. I then argued that the weakness of balance had little to do with its ability to win any given match, but rather that it was much more likely to lose to a weaker opponent, as the playstyle is less forcing than offense, which can dictate momentum in the hands of a skilled player, and stall, which can outlast nearly anything with perfect play. This combined with PRO heavily punishing losses to weak players, I argued, is the reason for the poor state of classic balance on ladder. I have a unique and biased perspective on Baton Pass. After all, I built the infamous team that got us here in the first place: https://pokepast.es/6563a3fc106521a2 . Everything that follows is about that team specifically and some quirks that may or may not have been covered by others in this thread already. Firstly, this team was built to be uncompetitive. All of my teams are. Not attempting to limit counterplay is, simply put, a teambuilding mistake. The more chances you give your opponent to play the game, the more chances your opponent has to win. With this in mind, it easily capitalizes on small mistakes from offensive teams, and will never lose to a team that does not have answers nor offensive pressure in competent hands. The most important turn for Baton Pass is Team Preview - against offense, lines ten turns deep can easily be precisely calculated, and forced wins against poorly-constructed teams can be evident from turn 0 and carried out. This certainly sounds broken and banworthy, doesn't it? However, the very predictability which allows a Baton Pass player to take over and annihilate weaker players without concern also makes the team subpar against good players. A good opponent can easily identify the Baton Pass player's win condition on the other side of the board and utterly deny it with minimal preparation - for example, keeping Clefable at above 90% HP so that Manaphy can never get through, barring an errant Ice Beam freeze or critical hit. Ultimately, Baton Pass is another style of Hyper Offense - one that trades off power against other offensive teams for a slightly better balance matchup and dominance against the unprepared. Secondly, the team struggles against some very common threats. Clefable, obviously, can shut down the team's 'uncompetitive' gameplan on its own, forcing it to play like conventional offense until it is eliminated or sufficiently weakened. Ferrothorn can only be handled by Lucario or Flamethrower Togekiss, and Lucario can be worn down very easily, especially if it is played with Garchomp as a partner. The team plays no hazard control, so Stealth Rock makes its life much more difficult. It struggles, as previously mentioned, against offensive teams in general, as it is difficult to dictate your gameplan against a faster team. Contrary to popular belief, however, Rain is a favorable matchup for Baton Pass - Kingdra can be traded off with Garchomp's Sash and generally cannot come in on any attacks, making it easier for a skilled Baton Pass player to set up checkmate than a comparable Rain player. The team has no switch-in to the common Gengar, and must attempt to sweep first if confronted by it. With perfect play, Baton Pass simply does not beat common builds of Stall, such as this frankly less competitive team: https://pokepast.es/bce1e153e8df21b4 (indeed, this team was built after two frustrating games against Gengar on Baton Pass), as it can never get through a healthy Clefable without extreme luck. Thirdly, Baton Pass is not easy to play. It requires accurate calculation from Team Preview and, at the very least, a fundamental understanding of how the team works. Failure to identify your win condition in Team Preview is tantamount to losing. For example, leading Scolipede is almost always a mistake - if you do not win on the spot, you've given over two turns to your opponent while making no threats (Protect and Baton Pass), which your opponent can use more effectively - for example, by setting Stealth Rock and dealing significant damage to the Baton Pass recipient. Baton Pass's broken mechanics turn some otherwise forced wins into 50/50s. My own winrate the first season I played this team was quite abysmal, and I would expect similar for most others. Lastly, it must be considered how far we are willing to go to defend a qualitative standard of 'competitiveness'. Anything involving luck is, by definition, uncompetitive - cheapening the value of prediction. OHKO moves are banned for that reason, but what about Focus Blast? Serene Grace? King's Rock? Air Slash? Hydro Pump? I've even lost to a Shadow Ball SpD drop in the past, should that be banned? If beating unprepared teams consistently is an issue, we must take a serious look at stall, which is capable of posting 90%+ winrates in the right hands, simply because there is nothing to be done unless the stall player makes a mistake or the opponent is explicitly prepared. I, personally, do not think the state of stall is an issue - in the same vein, I do not think Baton Pass beating unprepared players is an issue. Neither Baton Pass nor stall has forced an archetype out of the metagame - instead, both have demanded minor adjustments to contest them, which is in no way unhealthy. Now, will Baton Pass be unhealthy in the future? Almost certainly, yes. Substitute, Magearna, Necrozma, and Z-Crystals, and a working Baton Pass will remove the necessity of carefully removing counters and weakening checks, and at that point, something will have to go. However, banning it now would be tantamount to banning Salamence because of Salamencite, or Mew because of Mewnium Z. This is the wrong time and place for a Baton Pass ban, and there are far more powerful threats to address if there is truly a desire to shatter a healthy metagame using executive action because it is boring. There are still so many facets of this metagame that are insufficiently explored...

Hello! Today im here to show you the team that i use to defeat bosses on the hard dificulty, the reason im making this post is that i hope to find more help for my team to get higher success as, even with a pretty good win ratio, there are still some imperfections in it that i believe some people, who have more experience than me in boss fights, can potentially help me out. Since i started fighting against bosses i realized that with all the buffs they give to them so the AI can someone even out the for the lack of cognition, i knew it couldnt be beaten in a fair fight, odds are if youre bringing your pvp HO team, youll get overwhelmed by the insane amount of bulk and power these pokemon can dish out. Even your tankiest walls from the fatter stalls will struggle taking hits from these freaks, making stall while more possible to beat bosses than any offense could, its still an unreliable way to beat them, not to mention its slow as well. While im sure most players have already realized this, the question now comes, how can we circunvent this? Well one thing the AI will never do that is definitely exploitable is the fact it never switches, no matter how bad the situation is for the pokemon in front of them, they just keep using moves with it, and thats why i believe memento with stat passing is the most efficient way to beat bosses. Knowing what i wanted to use, all i missed now was the pokemon themselves. Just a heads up, im a bit of a slacker when it comes to geting good pokemon, so mostly what you see here is by no means the optimal choice of either ability/nature or ev spreads, however ill be posting down whats i believe to be the best options for each member, in regards to my experience using this team. Starting with the memento users, its pretty obvious why they are so essencial to any boss team, as a big part of setting up against them is all possible due to the fact we incapacitate them, and no better move does that than memento, yes your pokemon dies but the trade off is way worth it. Duggy is used, as he is one of the few pokemon that provides rocks while learning memento as well, not to mention its really good speed stat allows it to outspeed most boss leads on hard dificulty, which means there is no need to use a focus sash, i cant exactly pinpoint the stat but what i can say is that its fast enough to outspeed neroli's celebi (100 speed) while being slower than pewdie's starmie (115 speed). You only want to use focus sash if you either get outsped or you want rocks, which should only come necessary to pokemon who get avoided of getting ohko'd like with link's sturdy donphan/skarmory and chuck's or koichi's (dont recall which one is it lol) sashed hitmons and other instances like sash zard with oak, tho it has defog on his lead rotom-w so it might not be worth there. Attacking isnt even gonna be a thing with this guy so you might as well slap as many hms you can so you can access some of the bosses. All you basically want is speed, and speed nature, which it shouldnt be hard to get by since diglett are one of the easiest mons to grind. Luckily for me i got the best possible amount where i was only going for 25+. Whimsicott is hands down the best memento user for this, as with prankster it pretty much guarantees it, you only need to give it memento and lvl him up to 100 so it can be used in bosses, no ev train or nature is required. Cottonee is used to for the third memento and drop the pokemon stats one final time, to its lowest, no reason to use cottonee over whimsicott, its just cooler over having 2 whimsicotts, plus who knows if they might implement a species clause for this boss fights. Baton pass chain With the bosses offensive stats reduce to its maximum, it comes to these three last slots to overtake and open the doors for one of the pokemon to sweep with all of the stats buffed. With that said there is one move i wanted to abuse in particular, stored power. With its recent addition (move didnt work properly before) this gives an insane buff to stat passing raising its viability against bosses even higher. The idea was to raise as many stats as possible with two of the members and give all the buffs to the pokemon dedicated to sweep, the one who carries stored power. With some thinking and looking at the resources at hand i came up with the core that i believe does this job pretty effectively, all limitations considered. Venomoth is without a doubt one of the best stat passers in the game, as not only it covers 3 stats buffs with just one move, it also gets reliable recovery making it much more consistent to setup against various pokemon and to cap it all off, its ability shield dust protects it from any secondary effect, so no freezes, no paras, no confusions, no flinches etc. unfortunately mine is tinted lens which is definitely not the ability that you want but i didnt want to grind for a shield dust venomoth so i just go with this one. That isn't say they are hard to get, because they certainly arent, having plenty of routes where its tier 1. QD, roost and bp are obivious for its moves, bug buzz isnt bad if you dont wanna put all the pressure to one pokemon to do the sweeping, tho sleep powder or stun spore might be smarter just so it guarantees a potential turn where the mon doesnt get an oportunity to hax you once you bp out. Evs are a bit up to you, max speed is certainly not the most optimal choice but it does mean you outspeed most pokemon just after one qd up, which might've not been the case if you didnt invest in speed and its always nice to be faster than your opponent and take control ASAP. Tho defense investment is wise, as it is the one stat venomoth doesnt coverwithh boosts, i dont really have an exact value or optimal spread for this so just try to go for what you think its better. Leftovers/black sludge is the best item, tho a super effective berry might be worth considering or a sitrus, tho lefties is just consistent hp so its the best item overall. Since there is only one usefull stat that venomoth cant buff, this leaves the job for vaporeon who is curiously, the only pokemon that learns the combination of acid armor and baton pass outside the accelgor line, which doesnt leave us with a lot of options and vaporeon is clearly the better one as its much bulkier and has a much better defensing typing on top of that. I usually like to bring this pokemon to start the stat buffs as it gives more bulk to venomoth if necessary. Moveset seems pretty self explanatory and evs just make it that much better at setting the stat it needs, lefties is used for the same reasons as venomoth however since that vaporeon isnt protected by shield dust another to take in consideration is lum berry, as it would suck really bad to potentially lose to a para/freeze/confusion. Clef seems to me like the best choice to abuse stored power as it covers whatever doesnt get affected by it pretty well with moonblast and further coverage with fire that hits steels who resist both typings, but as you might realize, with stored power being as strong as it is, its almost unnecessary to use it beside some very specific scenarios like metagross, bronzong, jirachi or shedinja. If you successfully setup all stats to max you've got in your hands a stored power with a grand total 500 base power, which means there is also no chance to get walled by things like unaware as for example neroli's unaware clef gets easily 2hko'd and toothless' quag simply gets ohko'd. Life orb further boosts the power of your attacks should give it a last push to pretty much one shot everything that comes in on you, links heatran for example gets one shotted by stored power. I would say nature wouldnt matter in this case but it actually does, dont be like me and use -speed on your clefs because it actually means your slower than pewdie's scarf jirachi even at +6 which is super annoying as you can probably guess. Exceptional scenarios: There are some bosses who like to make my life a bit more dificult with their leads, examples of these are misty and its mirror shot milotic, lorelei with its blizzard ninetales-a, letrix with togekiss, sage's glaceon with blizzard as well and terminator's phazing moltres. To which i have the following answers: Magnezone beats everything but terminator's moltres. Heatran is used to beat moltres. Obviously there are easier ways to deal with these things other than having the need to use pvp ready pokemon, its up to you on how you and what you have to deal with it. Threats: While the team has mostly a favourable position compared to other bosses, there are still ways that they can slip through the cracks, things like setupfrom the opponent, phazing or venomoth being at the mercy of a crit or simply getting overwhelmed like in some cases with saphirr's primal groudon. There might be some other flaws some of you may have caught on and if so i would appreciate a lot if you mentioned what those were. Conclusion: Thank you for taking the time to read this whole mess, i understand this isnt the most organized post (sorry about that lol) but i hope you enjoyed and could help me out pointing either things i could do to make my team better or things that threaten it in general and if you have learnt something from this threat, im glad i couldve been helpful in any way and wish you the best of luck for the bosses.