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Guys, you are misunderstanding the whole situation. The topic of this thread is the Impossible combination of Abilities/moves, not the comparison with Smogon tier list. The topic of this thread is not about Pokemon that have been put in UBER tier in Gen 7, but the combination of moves and abilities that cannot be obtainable in the Pokemon games normally. I will make you an Example: In generation one THERE WERE NO ABILITIES. Machamp could learn the move Fissure in Generation 1, cause Fissure was a TM back in the days. Fissure TM has been removed in the next generations. With the PokeBank and Pokemon Red/blue/Yellow in virtual console on Nintendo 3DS, a Machamp from Pokemon Red/blue/Yellow can be transfered to the new games, but it will hold only his Hidden ability(it's a rule of these transfers). Now, in Gen7 Pokemon Games we can have a Machamp with fissure, but the only ability available for that Machamp is Steadfast. So, it's IMPOSSIBLE to find a Machamp No Guard + Fissure. Extend this thing to all pokemons that have the same problem and u get the topic of this thread. This is not to discuss tier lists, but to discuss about impossible combinations. Spend more than 2 minutes to read please.

In my opinion every combination of ability-moves that's impossible to obtain in normal games should be banned as well here on PRO. We're not talking about metagames, but about game mechanics. Unaware CLefable + Softboiled isn't banned because it's "too strong" but because in an USUM game it's IMPOSSIBLE to have an Unaware Softboiled, you shouldn't confuse these things.

I couldn’t say it clearer than that. It’s all about game mechanics. I’ m a huge fan of the original game from the beginning, I know by heart lots of things concerning move and abilities combinations and it’s really annoying when I do pvp ranked match to see for example a rotom wash with blizzard and the person arguing with me that he didn’t do anything wrong. I’m not a top 25 pvp player (max rating ever reached : 411) but I dont think it’s a good idea to let top 25 player decides alone since there are some of them who abused illegal combination like chansey + psywave in the past. To conclude, I think what belongs to game mechanics should be banned according to showdown and what belongs to pro meta specificities should be voted by everybody.

Pokémon in PRO have the same stats, abilities and movepools than Gamefreak, why should we allow these illegal combinations? This is not about differentiating us from Smogon, this is about following the original games mechanics. I think we should keep illegal combinations banned.

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I don't feel every combination that isn't possible in the original games should be banned. Gamefreak make games where each of them is supposed to feel unique. They implement new stuff each generation, but some other stuff, particularly TMs and Move Tutors, don't make it back. They are not necessarily choices for balance, but rather choices because of limitations. As thus, Showdown bans these not because they're broken, but because they want to simulate the experience of specific generations. On the other hand, we're an MMORPG that aims to make everything available. We have TMs and Tutors that were only available in old generations, available to use right here in a 7th Generation environment. So why should we pretend that a specific Pokemon should be unable to learn something? If it's broken, then sure we should ban it, but if that combination ends up only being a niche, why should we ban it? Elemental gems are not available in Gen 7, because they were replaced by Z-crystals. Should we ban Elemental gems then? If yes, then why are we even making them available to obtain? The only situation a gem is better than a Z-crystal is for Acrobatics, and that's not really broken. Gen 8 will be unable to bring back all Pokemons. Although the choice of which Pokemon to keep was done with the apparent consideration of a better balanced PvP environment, the choice itself of not keeping the Pokemon in the files was made due to limitations that we don't have. Should we then ban half of the Pokemon when we upgrade to gen 8? That would be ridiculous, and ruin the MMORPG experience. So yeah, since we're not trying to imitate the original games to the letter, it makes more sense to allow everything, and only ban what proves to be broken. That, actually, shouldn't be possible even here. Rotom was designed to only be able to use the elemental move that matches its current form: when it loses its form, it also forgets that move. It's definitely something that shouldn't be allowed, and the NPC that changes Rotom's form should definitely make Rotom unable to bring other form moves eventually.

Hey, I have some suggestions regarding the current PC-System. I am aware that this is low priority, but I am pretty sure that it is a really good and wanted QoL change. I saw similar posts, but those did not match entirely with the thoughts I had about the PC. If you like or dislike any of them, please leave a reply in this topic. 1. Naming Boxes. PvP-Box, PvE-Box, Shiny Box etc. I know it is possible to sort it like that with a bit of effort but the naming would make the whole sorting way more pleasant. 2. Adding and naming Categories One Box consists of 5 Rows which contain 3 Pokémon each. Adding a [-] Split function to split the Box in two Categories (which both can be named) containing 6 Pokémon each for a full team (12 per splitted box) would be great. This would be especially useful for entire PvP teams, but can be used to sort a lot of different things aswell. 3. Free movement in the box. Each Slot in every box should be usable for any Pokémon no matter how much we caught or if those are filled with Pokémon. This would allow us to use the last boxes for PvP-Teams (using the Split function), Shinys, Boss-Pokémon etc. whilst the boxes in the front will not be messed up by (or simply used for) catching new wild Pokémon. 4. Checking and mass-deleting Pokémon. Adding a simple checkbox to every Pokémon and being able to click a trashcan to release all of them together. This will prevent the time consuming and annoying process of releasing every single Pokémon slowly, especially after catching hundreds. 5. Mark favorites. Small, not needed change I thought about. Marking Pokémon with a little star and being able to only show those. This is for example useful to mark epic or just really good Pokémon when you caught hundreds of the same kind to differentiate those from the bad (and hopefully mass-delete the rest). Thanks to @SchattenDialga for the visualization. Make sure to check out his shop here: https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/103263-url

Do you have basic programming knowledge and a willingness to apply this knowledge to help further the development of PRO? Read thoroughly below, and then apply if you satisfy the requirements. Requirements Tangibles: You must have been around the project for at least 3 months (mention your earliest-registered account name in the application for us to verify). 100-plus hours clocked on an account in-game. You already completed a variety of quests in PRO. A clean track record on your account (note: it does not need to be completely pristine; even if you have had milder offenses, they may be overlooked depending on how long ago they were, how your behavior has changed since, and the its severity relative to the nature of the position). Have a Discord Account as it will be the main way for staff to communicate. Be 18 years of age or older. Intangibles: At least basic knowledge of the programming language Python. Fluency in the English language. In addition to writing the logic-coding of NPC scripts, you will also be responsible for the dialogues of NPCs by virtue of your access to and control over the scripts - proper grammar, spelling, and syntax is expected in that regard. Characteristical integrity. Due to our content-sensitive access to NPC scripts and control thereof, this is one of the most trust-sensitive positions in the game; as such, there will be no shortage of scrutiny with our candidates. Willingness to learn new things. To submit your application, please PM AlCedo, preferably on Discord (AlCedo#2920). Please specify your experience in computational languages with as much detail as possible (Github would be good). Applicants who do not meet the tangible requirements or specify their experience will automatically be denied for the near future. If you have any questions or concerns regarding our recruitment criteria, feel free to ask before applying. Note that all staff work is voluntary! This is not a career, but a hobby instead. When applications are open, there will be an announcement on our Discord Server as well as a bump to this post.

Hey there! Welcome to my shop, I do basically everything I've been playing pokemon for 22 years I have a ton of experience in PvP and PvE for pokemon. So I enjoy doing these types of things in PRO so I figured I'd open up a shop to help others! All orders will be placed via Discord or Ingame, If you want to place an order to me Message me on Discord @ Oniichan#8680 , Or message me ingame via Ijjiman1. My services to be provided are as follows down below thanks for stopping by Oniichan's Odd Jobs! If your not sure what Tier the pokemon is message me and I will help you :)! Now for rules: [spoiler=Rules] RULE 1: We keep your "requested pokemon" up to 1 days after service(s) is finished so you can pay for your service. IF you decide NOT to pay after service there will be a 10% interest fee added to the price for being late. (try to avoid this as much as possible). RULE 2: Daycare service will take up to 1 - 4 days. (Rare case it may take more.) Hunt Service can take up to a week depending on the pokemon and IVs (Rare Case may take more.) RULE 3: I Reserve the Right to Decline any type of Service for any given reason, I'm a Human being too and I have a Life lol. RULE 4: I will Take Screenshots of EVERY trade to avoid being scammed for my safety and yours! RULE 5: For Hunting I will search for your "requested" pokemon. Once I find your pokemon I will contact you, after that moment you have 4 days to pay the price of the pokemon and collect it from me. If you don't pay the pokemon's price (The one you told how much can you pay) you won't be able to get your "requested pokemon" and you'll get reported for the fake request. [spoiler=Tier 1 Pokes ( Base xp below 100 ) ]For pokemon below 100 xp the pricing is as follows: Level 1 to 19 = $125 per level (Total Cost is $2500) Level 20 to 39 = $250 per level (Total Cost $5000) Level 40 to 80 = $500 per level (Total Cost $20000) Level 81 to 90 = $1000 per level (Total Cost $10000) Level 91 to 95 = $3000 per level (Total Cost $15000) Level 96 to 100 = $5000 per level (Total Cost $25000) " [spoiler=Tier 2 Pokes ( Base xp 100 to 199)]For pokemon at Base xp 100 to 199 the pricing is as follows: Level 1 to 19 $250 per level (Total Cost $4,500) Level 20 to 39 $300 per level (Total Cost $6,000) Level 40 to level 80 $500 per level (Total Cost $20,000) Level 81 to 90 $1,500 per level (Total Cost $15,000) Level 91 to 95 $5,000 per level (Total Cost $25,000) Level 96 to 100 $7,000 per level (Total Cost $35,000) [spoiler=Tier 3 Pokes (Base xp above 200) Usually fully evolved pokes]For pokemon above 200 Base xp the pricing is as follows: Level 1 to 19 $3,00 per level (Total Cost $6,000) Level 20 to 39 $400 per level (Total Cost $8,000) Level 40 to 80 $500 per level (Total Cost $20,000) Level 81 to 90 $2,000 per level (Total Cost $20,000) Level 91 to 95 $7,000 per level (Total Cost $35,000) Level 96 to 100 $10000 per level ( Total Cost $50,000) [spoiler=Tier 4 (Chansey type Pokemon)]PM directly to discuss pricing on these. [spoiler=Prices]$25,000 for Half (255 EVs) $50,000 for Full (510 EVs) [spoiler=Pricing] DUE TO HUGE DEMAND I AM CHANGING PRICING ON HUNT SERVICES FOR PVP POKEMON/Good IV pokemon The new pricing would be 15% cheaper then what I would sell the pokemon for , This is to avoid people scamming me and Abusing my services. Sorry for any inconvenience. Random pokemon pricing is the same however. So I can do any pokemon up until Hoenn currently working on Sinnoh poke's The Pricing for hunting a certain pokemon with random IVs $6,500 Lastly If you have any type of questions or any other service you want added Message me at Discord @ Oniichan#8680 Thanks for coming by my shop hope you have a great time in the world of Pokemon!

Hey there PvP players, due to PRO's constant updating, quests, availability of moves/tutors/tms and such we created unconsciously move/ability combinations that are not available in the original games and are invalid on Showdown. A few examples of that are Unaware Clefable with Soft-Boiled, Natural Cure/Serene Grace Chansey or Blissey with Psywave or Tailglow Phione. We have banned a few of these combinations but realized that things such as: Pikachu or Raichu with Surf & a pre-evolution move from Pichu or any egg move or its Hidden Ability, are banned from ranked play. This is due to an illegal move combination. [spoiler=List of banned moves in combination with Surf on Pikachu/Raichu] Egg moves/Breeding moves Wish Tickle Reversal Present Lucky Chant Flail Fake Out Endure Encore Electric Terrain Double Slap Disarming Voice Charge Bide Bestow Pre-Evolution moves Charm Sweet Kiss Nasty Plot Are super rare cases and super confusing for some players. There are a quite a few things like that in our game and currently there is no way for us to limit them from ranked play except banning them. Due to our poor handling in the past we created inconsistencies that we no longer want. We however are stuck on how we can fix those things, this is where we want to hear your guys opinion. There are currently two approaches I can think of: Ban everything, ban every combination that is not valid in a Gen7 OU Showdown team Let capable players vote for every single scenario, this way the community has a say in it as well. If you can think of a better way to handle it please let me know (PvP Council is not an option yet). Looking forward to some of your guys responses. Best Regards, Qeight

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That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to say, yet people keep saying “PRO should have a unique meta” and stuff, this is hopeless. Also how would the META be more diverse if the ones who are succeeding in this META are those who decide the changes? They have all the reasons to leave things as they are and none to actually give a proper opinion... It’s just a bad idea in my opinion and the fact that all those who supported it but one person based their arguments on META and tiers only further proves my point: people shouldn’t vote. The community clearly isn’t mature enough to read a short post and then cast a vote having all the information, how do you expect it to actually balance a game with so many variables? And all those who mention uncoded and broken stuff, the devs are working on it, sooner or later we’ll have everything Lastly, you might say this isn’t Pokémon, yet the game is literally named “Pokémon” Revolution Online I know it’s always fun to live in a world where the players make the balance calls, he’ll I’ve been in the LoL community since season 1, but the truth is making this kind of calls is hard and it has nothing to do with PvP success. The best game analysts are almost never the more successful players, and that’s true in every game.

Let capable players vote for every single scenario, this way the community has a say in it as well. This idea is the best but how you choose the players ? Top 25 sorry Qeight, but this isn't an option. its not cause you are/were in this "top" that you are capable to take a good decision for pvp. How can a player give an advice if he can play only 20 pokemons ? I think a capable players can play around more than 60 pokemon lvl 100 ev train ( all different) and ready to pvp. A player who can build around 10-12 different team with different pokemon. All can go in ladder with 6 pokemon and this type of player could give his opinion for ban or not. Sorry i really can't agree with that. They are just going to destroy pvp.

Si posteas aquí: https://tinyurl.com/NewPRORestore ese screenshot siguiendo las normas del post te podrán echar una mano :) También es probable que Staff se pase por este post y al ver tu screenshot te ayuden igualmente, pero ese post es el que se suele usar para restaurar pokémon que se han borrado por accidente!

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I really think that someone needs to learn to read

+1 also sudo Dex numbers for currently unsearchable pc Pokémon(aloha, rotom, ect)

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I couldn't have put this any better. I really enjoy PRO for the fact that it has its own style, because it really tutors to how an MMO should be. This isn't j u s t a main series game converted to be an MMO, it is its own game nearly, and it is amazing for that! It is more based around an economy and its player-base. 1.5 years and I still enjoy coming on to see familiar faces. It is a great pull-factor once you put yourself into the community.

I don't think the situation will change much at all in 2-3 generations from now? In general, illegal movesets are caused by only a few things: -Having a regular ability with a move only learnable in generation 1 -Learning both a newer gen Egg Move and an older gen TM/Move Tutor move. -Having Hidden Ability and learning a move from before gen 5. In other words, it's mostly changes from the past that causes illegal movesets. In the future, they add a new move as level-up, TM or Move Tutor, it's going to work fine with any of the previously legal movesets, since all you need is to import said moveset and then add the move you want. Unless they decide to make a game unable to import from older generations, or make big changes to the stats of Pokemons, those cases will never be a problem. Only Egg moves create a problem, since the Pokemon needs to be created in the newer game, and thus can't benefit from moves only available in a previous generation. But again, same thing as before, if it ends up being too powerful, we just ban. There shouldn't be too many bad cases. The other possible problem would be with new mechanics. We will get Dynamaxing, which is certain to end up proving itself more useful with certain Pokemons than certain others. Those are definitely more likely to break the meta. Will those new mechanics cause certain illegal movesets to become too powerful? Maybe, maybe not, but a case-by-case ban still sounds more fitting. I'd be more worried about how we try to fit Dynamaxing along with Mega Evolution and Z-crystals, since they apparently won't make a return. And same with gen 9 and 10, we just don't know what new mechanics will change the game, and it's best to make a decision when we reach that point, rather than make decisions now in fear of what might not happen at all.

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Active players meaning Top25 finishes this year, in the past players could vote if they had a certain rank or were Top25 in any season, it makes no sense to let players vote who were Top25 sometime last year or even the year before that. This ensures that active players who can reach the Top ranks on the ladder. This may not seem like the "best players" however they are the significant better players.

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I gave my friend a rhydon to evolve but they were in kanto and didn't beat sinnoh yet, so they cant evolve it. He sent me the pictures Playing on silver. Pls help me get it back. Ty

Im hunting bulbasaurs, I'll hit ya up : )

Hi @kasbarinoo As proper answer has been given in the following thread, ITEM BUYER , I will now close this thread. I'm really happy to see that your issue has been solved. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask. With that said, i will now close the thread. Have a wonderful day !

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the limit for the third bird is 350 or 355 evolutions?

+1 for this Idea.

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That it will eventually be implemented!

Kisses :D

Wowowowow, trying scam? Wtf are u saying,flygon is not even meta poke n is UU Poke(unused Poke) for sure the price is really not that expensive compared to meta poke...... And I just place offer based on you saying 'offer' n based on current economy in gold,in fact u are the one try to scam these people by selling expensive af,if u don't like the offer no need to accuse someone that offer u 'scammer' cuz it is u who asking the buyer to offer, for God sake this new player -_-

Changelog 11.07.2019 Unburden works correctly now. Soul Dew works now. Bug Gem works now. Dark Gem works now. Dragon Gem works now. Electric Gem works now. Fairy Gem works now. Fighting Gem works now. Fire Gem works now. Flying Gem works now. Ghost Gem works now. Grass Gem works now. Ground Gem works now. Ice Gem works now. Normal Gem works now. Poison Gem works now. Psychic Gem works now. Rock Gem works now. Steel Gem works now. Water Gem works now.

Who bought the tyrunt? Any evidence

I play on gold server While selling dex service to zeiden, I forgot to use lend trade and traded him relicanth and now that relicanth is stuck in his pc cos he hasn't done hoenn region. So could you please return the relicanth to me. Thanks

Changelog 07.07.2019 The Legendary Bird trio has been released! This is a permanent addition to PRO. Head to Shamouti Island after completing the main story of Pokemon Revolution (all regions) to start the quest. Assist Melody by collecting the Orbs that empower Lugia's Song to return balance to the island climate! This quest is meant to be endgame. As such, boss encounters can be difficult and have unexpected twists. Don't worry about trying again - they have no cooldown! All three of the legendary birds are catchable, though the requirements for each subsequent bird after the first will increase. Requirements include the following: Pokedex Caught Pokedex Evolved A strong baby Pokemon (Elekid | Magby | Smoochum) A quantity of elemental Gems [*]The first bird should be comparatively easy to obtain. The second bird should be relatively consistent with previous legendary quest difficulty. The last member of the trio will be quite difficult to catch! [*]This is not the Summer Event. Stay tuned for that!

Why make a legendary quest with 15 dig item as requirments ? (90 for the 3) seem a bit nonsense x)

It's always the same. The quests, despite python being now supported, still aren't in any way more interesting or developed ; if anything, the amount of work put into them is significantly lesser, leading to even worse stuff than what used to be done in the earlier days of the game with bigger restrictions. It's always the same requirements: regional champion (once again, why Sinnoh, for Kanto's legendaries?), required set evolution data (that will eventually get reduced down like all others end up being because every single time, people complain about it, yet every single time, it's thrown in unthinkingly as a requirement), show a freshly caught pokémon (every quest except Sinnoh's reporter), and give items. Mew's quest, that was done in 2014 or 2015, had those exact same types of requirements already, so this is a bland copy paste with tweaked values in the code. Then, once the quest actually starts, it's mostly going around the map for the sake of twisted satisfaction seeing people losing their patience. For instance, for Manaphy, it was: Go to Lilycove, Go to Eumi Island, Go to New Mauville, Go to Lilycove, Go to New Mauville, Go to Eumi Island. Along that, every single NPC in the Captain's ship had the very same bland, soulless, uninspired, one-line dialogue ; then, half of the NPCs who had more than that one line had typos in them (see my report here). -[/hr] Back in our days, we would make official announcements for events, like the 2017 Halloween's announcement, with clear mention of the legendary being only available during that time, as well as the requirements to do it, without giving away the full guide of every step of the quest. Of course, it's much less work to just say "surprise released" on Discord and get on with it, with no informations whatsoever, at all. -[/hr] Speaking of lazy: the bosses. As they get reworked, bosses go from Lvl 120 with 100 EVs in each stats, to: they have 400 EVs in each stat, which ends up giving even more stats than pokémon lvl 120; they hold items but the "choice *" held items, while effectively increasing their stats, do not block them into one offensive move; [*] you cannot use any items during the battle; [*] they still have several legendaries per team, though i can't seem to find if any have Megas; [*] some of the Bosses' pokémon have more than 4 moves; [*] they apparently had a random lineup to make more efficient teams based on their poké's order inefficient, but apparently that change got reversed at least. With that, they still have a 60% chance to reward you useless berries, 25% chance to reward you some PP Ups, and 15% chance to reward you a fully randomly generated non-shiny pokémon. And that is when they reward you something aside from the mere privilege to keep going through quests, like in this particular event's case. Quests in which they're lazily thrown in to give those a wrong difficulty level. -[/hr] In short, the suggestion is quite simple in its form, but evidently complicated in its implications: start thinking. You're supposed to do the job out of passion ; be passionate. A game is supposed to entertain ; be entertaining. If you can't be bothered; don't. But don't throw unpolished stuff to be done with it and cut all questions/suggestions about the matter, because that's how you get this.

Despite how stupid this guy might be, he rarely has some great ideas. This is one of them. +1

server: Silver player i traded with: HardPeach needed to trade evo kanto scyther for evolution, but friend didnt clear johto yet so it got region locked. ples free my grasshopper thank!

HELLO TRAINERS WELCOME IN MY NEW GUIDE MY NEW GUIDE IS ABOUT HOW TO FARM MONEY EASILY ON PRO HERE IS SOME STEPS WHICH CAN HELP YOU TO EARN MONEY FAST AND EASILY STEP - 1 (DO BOSSES AND DIG SPOTS) 1ST OF ALL IF YOU WANT TO EARN MONEY THEN YOU SHOULD START DOING SOME BOSSES BOSSES GIVES A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY SOME BOSSES GIVES 10-20K AND SOME GIVES OVER 60K + SOME ITEMS TOO LIKE LIFE ORB AND OTHER GOOD ITEMS YOU CAN CHECK BOSSES COOLDOWN ON PRO OFFICIAL DISCORD SERVER DIG SPOTS - DIG SPOTS IS THE 2ND WAY TO EARN BUT IT ONLY GIVES RARE ITEMS SOMETIMES RARE ITEMS LIKE RARE CANDY, FOSSILS ETC. YOU CAN COLLECT A BUNCH OF RARE CANDY AND CAN SELL IN A BIG AMOUNT. STEP - 2 (HUNT GOOD AND META POKES) THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO EARN MONEY FAST AND EASILY YOU CAN HUNT META POKES LIKE GIBLE, TYRANITAR, DRAGONITE, DEINO'S ETC IF YOU WANT TO CHECK THE RARITY OF POKE THEN YOU CAN CHECK ON PRO'S OFFICIAL DISCORD YOU CAN GET THE ALL INFORMATION OF THAT POKE WHICH YOU WANT TO HUNT I HAVE 1 MORE TIP FOR YOU YOU CAN HUNT POKE AND AFTER HUNTING 3-4 POKES YOU CAN TRAIN THEM AND CAN SELL ON FORUMS EASILY STEP - 4 DO EV TRANING AND LEVEL UP SERVICES (DAYCARE) YOU CAN EARN A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY BY DAYCARE TOO YOU JUST HAVE TO SPEND SOME MORE TIME IN COMPARISION OF HUNTING BUT THIS IS EASY TO IF YOU NEED ANYTYPE OF HELP THEN FEEL FREE TO ASK ME YOU CAN ASK HERE OR YOU CAN DM ME ON DISCORD TOO [spoiler=My Discord]Mega Lucario#0202

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