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I am shocked this is even being considered. I seriously hope this doesn't happen. However, if it does, all Gen 7 mechanics/additions should be reverted back to Gen 6. New moves, Alolan forms, status changes, new abilities, and new stats would have to be changed accordingly. Gengar's Levitate would have to be back. Mantine would lose Roost. There's more.

This is probably the dumbest suggestion to ever see the light of day. There's no nicer way to put it. Banning Chansey makes more sense. Banning Fearow, as was suggested in jest, makes more sense. With that out of the way: I. Economy Talonflame has been gutted for a long time. Randomly increasing the value of a single Pokemon for no good reason (see later sections) would essentially be giving up on any sort of effective economy where value is persistent. When Talonflame was nerfed, everyone knew it was coming eventually. This is the equivalent of giving Kyurem (if it were tradable) (and likely now Garchomp as well) Dragon Dance from Generation 8, arbitrarily skyrocketing its value. This will be abused, no matter how vigilant moderation staff is. II. Consistency There are so many things that do not work properly on PRO, but most of the differences with Gen 7 standard mechanics are due to the game not being complete (missing Pokemon, moves) or bugs (U-Turn / Volt Switch). The only precedent for this kind of change is Tail Glow Phione, which was questionable in itself but largely ignored due to its uselesness. III. Actual Effects on PvP For reference, Talonflame sets will be listed here: Talonflame @ Choice Band Ability: Gale Wings Adamant Nature 252 Atk / varying HP / varying Spe - Flare Blitz - Brave Bird - U-Turn - Roost / Will-o-Wisp / Steel Wing Talonflame @ Sharp Beak Ability: Gale Wings Adamant Nature 252 Atk / varying HP / varying Spe - Swords Dance - Brave Bird - Flare Blitz - Roost Talonflame @ Leftovers Ability: Gale Wings Careful Nature varying HP / varying Atk / varying SpD / varying Spe - Taunt - Roost - Brave Bird - Bulk Up / Will-o-Wisp This is a fundamentally polarizing Pokemon, and not one that allows for interesting developments in the metagame. Choice Band sets can invalidate current offensive builds on a whim, Swords Dance excels at shattering certain builds of Balance, and Taunt makes for an excellent stallbreaker. Much like Manaphy, which people continue complaining about to this day, Talonflame's list of true answers is short and often can be chipped out by status or hazards. Rotom-Wash and Tyranitar cannot take U-Turn forever, and incorrectly evaluating the set can have devastating effects - Tyranitar hit by Will-o-Wisp, Thunderbolt Clefable nailed by Choice Band Brave Bird. While there is no doubt that Gale Wings Talonflame would not be broken, adding polarizing threats does not make a metagame more fun. We can see this both by looking at what Smogon bans and does not ban, as well as player opinion on PRO as a whole. Recently, Smogon banned Galar Darmanitan and the Dynamax mechanic at large. Galar Darmanitan has never had the presence of Landorus -T in previous generations of OU, so why was it so quickly sent off? While answers to Landorus-T generally come naturally in teambuilding Gen 7 OU, Galar Darmanitan is polarizing. It forces players to run soft checks such as Rotom formes, or subpar Pokemon in hopes to wall it. Talonflame is much the same - while sets like Defensive Garchomp and Defensive Rotom-Wash are strong and popular, they cannot reliably answer Talonflame alone, as it can defeat them over time. Now, let's take a look at the archetypes PRO players love to complain about. 1. Rain It's quite self-evident what rain teams do. You pack a Kingdra answer and a Manaphy answer or you lose. People hate this archetype. 2. Stall Stall is hated because of its ability to drag out games which feel hopeless for the losing side. It's also more complicated to answer than Rain, but just as polarizing nonetheless. Why combat this by bringing back a similarly polarizing and uninteractive Pokemon? There are plenty of more interesting options if bulky Balance truly needs a boost - Victini? Tornadus and Thundurus? Even Volcanion can make Balance's somewhat difficult Rain match-up much, much stronger. Lastly, we've seen this all already. We know what Talonflame does. It would be better to bring in truly new Pokemon rather than unleash an old tyrant once again. tl;dr: don't change Talonflame's value again; be consistent with Gen 7 as much as technical limitations allow, who the heck thinks Talonflame would be a positive influence on the metagame

The development time can rather be spent on something like a blacklist for Pokemon/Abilities instead of bringing back a mindless Pokemon from a time where everyone just run it, it will just force everyone to carry a Pokemon that can deal with Talonflame once again. I voted for I don't care as in the end, the PvP community has to play with this but there are better suggestions and things Devs should look into when trying a more refreshing meta. A blacklist would achieve such a thing by trying to dissect obvious problems (win% to pick% of Pokemon) and such things.

I think it would be a great idea to cut the game timer down to 30 seconds or add a total player timer kinda like showdown so that way if people continuesly time stall they will lose the game. It is so frustrating going afk waiting on people. You can tell a difference betweem someone is actually thinking of a move and someone who is time stalling to be rude. Hopefully something changes about the timer soon.

I am STRONGLY against this. Why would we ever want to GO BACK a gen for just 1 ability. Either everything would need to have gen 6 mechanics or nothing. It makes 0 sense. Galewings was nerfed for a reason. It was dominate even WITH all the legendary pokemon PRO is missing. I literally cant think of a single good reason this would be allowed. Imagine someone new trying out the game. "Oh this is gen 7 mechanics nice... wait why does this talonflame have priority at half hp?" I'm sorry, this is just a terrible idea

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, TALON AGAIN NO

Can you poll every suggestion please..... these feels like a really pointless poll, and i'm not actually suggesting you poll everything im suggesting you dont poll pointless things Clearly community dissagrees with me from current state of poll, can we get levitate back also please, and revert every single gen 7 change Mabye add some gen 8 moves, blastoise shell smash ect(probably still not viable but others will be) instead of regressing

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Im just sad that by simply existing this post telegraph that the battle ui revamp is still far away ( I want my u/volt turns!) :(

It’s a no for me dawg

talonflame back bye bye stupid conkeldurr god pls yes

Yes talonflame is cool pokemon and gale wing is cool abi :$

hell no LOL

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Since i suggested this, im try to explain the reason behind it. i understand many will be against this move, and i can clearly say i totally understand your point. But hope u take a few minutes to think about this. right now we playing with gen 7 mechanics, and as we all know Volt-turn, Substitute, Landorus, megas, Z-moves wont be here for a while. Meanwhile the meta isnt clear. We have many flaws. Trick room teams: trick room teams are so strong if u have the right tools. But one of the ways to stop this is by having a poke with Substitute, this move alone can win a match vs tr teams Stall is just annoying to play against it. both volt-turn and sub would make stall less influent. Weather teams (sun and rain) since talon got nerfed these raised alot. manaohy is a monster rn.... I know im not going into much details, but these are main topics for this decison. Many will be against others will actually agree. This would be just until we get the big pvp update. After that we would get Gen7 fully, hopefully.

if we return to gen 6, then no more ninetales alolan, muk alolan, gliscor roost, gengar with curse body, etc.

The berry farmer at lake of rage thought this was a good idea as well. And he recently learned how to grow Leppa Berries! you should go check his farm out soon!

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I wont even waste a single second reading this, sinceit comed from the guy that says: Volcarona is a rain sweeper ^o anyway. knew many wouldnt agree. and ok. i get it, many dont like it. all i wanted was simple: shouldnt have ever changed from gen6 to gen7 when we lacked so many things, gen6 was incomplete, which made this gen7 super incomplete. all im saying. But bring the hammer and hit me with it for sharing an opinion that u guys dont share ^^

Post-Gen 5 Sun teams are extremely underpowered and are consistently ranked at the bottom of every viability list, including the one made by idkup, which is pinned for everyone else to see. Yet, Belzebel has managed to finish on the ladder 10+ times. Please do not bash her for proving that she can still make it to the ladder using an underpowered playstyle. Everyone else should step it up. And by the way, as long as a winning move can change the outcome of a game (e.g., a Pursuit trapped Gengar missing a critical Focus Blast), Pokémon will never be completely serious and competitive. And before people comment on Focus Blast being overpowered, thus requiring it to have drawbacks, it does not need to have 120 power to begin with, and Talonflame's STABS both have 120 power and don't miss.

Yeah , because we need to change meta ..only ferro , rotom, conk

Talonflame can also fit on stall teams. It can run a nasty bulky set with either Taunt or Will-O-Wisp. It can be physically defensive, specially defensive, bulky but offensive (Full HP, full Atk), fast and offensive. It can run Swords Dance, Choice Band, Leftovers, or no item at all to switch into Knock Off and abuse Acrobatics. Do we really want Bird Spam teams back?

I agree , talonflame is good for this meta

I really hope that a staff member will take the time to look into the IP addresses of the people who voted. Someone in this thread commented several times (seemingly on multiple accounts) and may have voted more than once. Polling should be done fairly, especially when the community is quite evenly divided on this matter.

Imo pro has its own meta and i think it would be nice to play around with mixing gens since we have the bland meta for the past year almost and even if it doesn't work out it wont hurt to at least let it be tested out. Who knows it could add the much needed fun to the same boring teams everyone spams

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I think it's fine as it is. There's already a Nurse Joy in the cave if you wanna quickly heal your pokemon too.

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